"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I got a date with a secret operative

iqqi

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You are giving her too much attention.

This is why I told you less than two or three nights ago to say that last one liner, then leave her alone for a few days. A FEW DAYS, homie!!! LET HER MISS YOU!

And yes, way too much texting, cut that sh!t short.

Why did she ask if you have your priorities straight? What was that in response to? :confused:
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I don't want my age to show, but why is your last name such a big concern?

Ok, if you've committed a felony, yes this two pages of thread on avoiding telling your last name to her makes perfect sense. Besides that, it definitely does not!
 
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iqqi said:
You are giving her too much attention.

This is why I told you less than two or three nights ago to say that last one liner, then leave her alone for a few days. A FEW DAYS, homie!!! LET HER MISS YOU!

And yes, way too much texting, cut that sh!t short.

Why did she ask if you have your priorities straight? What was that in response to? :confused:
she asked me if I was at work, and I told her I was late to my a$$ modeling gig. Then she came out left field w/ "Oh. I guess you need to get your priorities straight then" I never responded to that. Maybe the a$$ modeling joke was going too far. I don't give a damn, she has a stick up her butt or something.

And Az I gave her my name today, it was just fun just messing with her.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
she asked me if I was at work, and I told her I was late to my a$$ modeling gig. Then she came of left field w/ "Oh. I guess you need to get your priorities straight then" I never responded to that. Maybe the a$$ modeling joke was going too far. I don't give a damn, she has a stick up her butt or something.

And Az I gave her my name today, it was just fun just messing with her.
Hmm. Maybe that was HER way of being funny, as in you should not be texting her, and should be at your a$$ modeling gig.

I would've just replied "Oh believe me. I have my priorities straight."

Then left it at that.

A guy said that to me once, with the meaning that I was his #1 priority. It was flattering enough to make me date him for 3 months, 2 of which I tried to convince myself that I didn't actually hate him. Ok hate is a strong word, but he was annoying as hell! Still, "I have my priorities straight." Sigh.
 
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Hmm. Maybe that was HER way of being funny, as in you should not be texting her, and should be at your a$$ modeling gig.

She has one stiff sense of humor. This lady is most definitely in need of a MNIN 3 hour special.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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When a chick asks for your last name, just tell her: "Don't worry, it'll go well with your first name" or anything that alludes to her being obsessed with getting married to you. Or better, make one up that turns into a joke name when combined with her firstname and tease her about it.

I kinda like this chick's sense of humour.
 
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Jitterbug said:
When a chick asks for your last name, just tell her: "Don't worry, it'll go well with your first name" or anything that alludes to her being obsessed with getting married to you. Or better, make one up that turns into a joke name when combined with her firstname and tease her about it.

I kinda like this chick's sense of humour.

yeah I'm not worrying about these texts anymore.. she needs a ride on the MNIN express. I just need to worry about her saying "come and get me saturday" I put the offer out there already.
 
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My Name is Nobody said:
because I talked to her yesterday on the phone and I told her I'll pick her up Saturday night @ her place. She said "we could do that" but she "may have to work" and she will find out today or tomorrow if she has to work or not.

What do you think?
I don't know man. The women I go out with know their work schedule and would make plans around it one way or another. My gut tells me that this one would use this excuse as a place holder in case she gets a better offer. I still say that women who are truly interested will set something in stone with you; if not the date/time you suggest, a specific counter offer.
Personally, I would have picked a different date while on the phone with her and went out with a different woman on Saturday.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You remind me of Shermanator from American Pie
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I don't know man. The women I go out with know their work schedule and would make plans around it one way or another. My gut tells me that this one would use this excuse as a place holder in case she gets a better offer. I still say that women who are truly interested will set something in stone with you; if not the date/time you suggest, a specific counter offer.
Personally, I would have picked a different date while on the phone with her and went out with a different woman on Saturday.
Yes, Francisco, but 2 can play that game. I needed to know if we are on for Saturday because I have another girl I could go out with.

I told this secret agent woman when we spoke on the phone I need to get my weekend planned. She said "why you have another date"?

I didn't tell her the truth I just said I had to help a buddy move.

Truth is I could call and set up a date with another woman, but since this one is stalling I'm not sure what to do. So I went ahead and made a date with the other girl Sunday.

So IF this girl accepts the date with me Saturday night and things go well, it could get very interesting making my date with the new girl on Sunday.

Maybe the agent girl suspects I have another girl interested in me so she is going to stall until the last second and then tell me the date for Sat night is on.
 

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Wow, this is an extremely elaborate thread for a girl you haven't met before. Good to see we're not over-thinking, here!
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Yes, Francisco, but 2 can play that game. I needed to know if we are on for Saturday because I have another girl I could go out with.[/qoute]
So, what are you waiting for? The first woman to call in with the right answer (i.e. "yes") wins a prize (that would be you). The one that snoozes, loses.
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I told this secret agent woman when we spoke on the phone I need to get my weekend planned. She said "why you have another date"?
You should have answered "Don't know yet, are you free?" Would have nipped it in the bud right then and there.
My Name is Nobody said:
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I didn't tell her the truth I just said I had to help a buddy move.
I hope she's blond for your sake.
My Name is Nobody said:
Truth is I could call and set up a date with another woman, but since this one is stalling I'm not sure what to do. So I went ahead and made a date with the other girl Sunday.
And this is the problem you run into by always leaving the ball in her court. If she was busy on Saturday you should have set up a date with her on Sunday and go out with the other one on Saturday instead of Sunday. You would have had both days booked and you wouldn't be waiting on this chick to decide what she wants to do with the ball.
My Name is Nobody said:
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So IF this girl accepts the date with me Saturday night and things go well, it could get very interesting making my date with the new girl on Sunday.
And if Hillary wins the election all of our problems will be solved. :rolleyes:
Damn, did I say that out loud? :nervous:
 
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Effington said:
Wow, this is an extremely elaborate thread for a girl you haven't met before. Good to see we're not over-thinking, here!
What are you smoking?

Not only did I meet her already, I kissed closed her in under 2 hours.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ahh, I I thought I read someone say that your first meeting was going to be this Saturday, and she didn't even have your name yet. Still, putting your interaction line for line in real time on a message board is sketchy at best.
 
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Effington said:
Still, putting your interaction line for line in real time on a message board is sketchy at best.
Yeah it's not a good idea.
 

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as usual with MNIN, WAY too much attention for a girl who plays games...couldn't you just play it by ear for once?
 

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cedd said:
as usual with MNIN, WAY too much attention for a girl who plays games...couldn't you just play it by ear for once?
Three letters...

N-Y-E.... :whistle:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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