"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I gave a girl my number, she texted me back! but then hit me with a curveball

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I really need some help on whether I can salvage this.

I work in a retail store and we have a regular customer. She's been coming there a couple years, and only recently we got some banter going. Whenever she comes in I playfully teased her and she was into it. I notice after some time that when she walks in and see's me she gets a big smile, then changes it into a little smirk.

I ask her questions about herself, some probing about her relationship status and she seems single. Eventually I write my number on a receipt to give to her and she starts laughing with a smile and says ok she'll take it. I didn't hear back. She came in the next day and said she messaged me but I didn't respond. Turns out my handwriting was bad and she got the wrong number, so I wrote it neater and gave it back. Maybe 2hrs later she texts me that she's interested in a coffee/drink and asks for my facebook.

She hasn't added me on FB yet. I suggest a time/place for 3 days later and she agrees. But the day before she texts me back this:

Hey,
I'm really sorry but I'm unsure about going, you seem like a really nice guy
but I just got out of relationship and don't think I'm ready to start
seeing someone new x


I replied that we're still cool and she doesn't have to avoid my place of work cause of me. So anything I can do?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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In2theGame

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I'm really sorry but I'm unsure about going, you seem like a really nice guy
You're finished.


IMO you were not aggressive enough & why did you write your number on paper instead of exchange numbers on your phone? Not to make things worse but I bet she's looking for a guy with some "edge" to him that will make that pvssy as wet as a typhoon.

If you want to, You can throw out a hail mary on this one and see how she responds. Don't show her too much interest now when she comes in because you WILL fall into the friend zone/nice guy zone. If it ever comes up where you have an opening to talk to her about meeting up again, you let that chick know straight up that you find her sexy and want to meet up for a drink.
 

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IMO you were not aggressive enough & why did you write your number on paper instead of exchange numbers on your phone? Not to make things worse but I bet she's looking for a guy with some "edge" to him that will make that pvssy as wet as a typhoon.


It's kinda hard man she's a customer not some girl in a nightclub. Giving her my number was so I don't put her on the spot, putting her on the spot would force her to go yes/no right there. There was also a guy waiting in line right behind her.

But yeah I don't think I give of the vibe of a niceguy, you guys might have to take me on my word for that.
 

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Don't ever offer your FB or any social media to a woman you dont know. They use it to disqualify you before meeting.

Unless its your GF keep them off social media.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A girl i know well went out on a first date with a new guy. While on the date she told the guy the same thing this girl told you. Its totally possible. People dont always think things thru before acting.

Just let it fall to the side. Im sure she will let u know again if she is interested at a later time.

Go find more girls!
 

MountainSlide

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Women . Should have just said “no problem, let me know if you change your mind”. And left it at that.
 

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Don't ever offer your FB or any social media to a woman you dont know. They use it to disqualify you before meeting.

Unless its your GF keep them off social media.
This.

Made that mistake once last year, but learned my lesson!
 
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