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Well if your girl had an online dating profile she would have countless offers. Even if she was on Tinder. So its not just the top 5%. Its even the average plain jane 6/10 that has a lot of guys after her.
And mistakes it for her being special. They can't be saved. Fools errands.

Comply or bye.

With my program or next. The wall us . Undefeated. fertility doesn't come back. her best or drop dead. good riddance.

Tbh the older I get the more I enjoy a 6/10 plane Jane but cute top form smv 18-23. Peak smv. No Cap.
 

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If I’m labeled “boring” by some women I could care less. I have a place, a job I like, my finances in order and hobbies that make me happy. Women can either take it or leave it
 

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...but I've found that if you choose to muscle through, life starts getting easier and more enjoyable. Now by easier I don't mean less challenging, I mean that you get stronger and start seeing your hard work pay off in the sense of different skill sets acquired, stronger mental health and endurance, different (more optimal) reactions from people, etc. You know what I'm talking about.
Definitely agree. The thing about pain is that there is the implication that it hurts, that it is unwanted, that it should be avoided at all costs. Our brain automatically recognizes it as a *negative" aspect. Men should have that underlying, subconscious understanding that defining pain is not straightforward, that there is seldom necessity and utility in feeling it.

...but that journey you speak of is lost to most men. It is painful and requires a lot of honest self reflection and hard work. Who wants to go through that? Struggle can be a beautiful thing. The only way we grow is through pain.
Our species have lived through thousands of years because of struggle. To have lost the necessary journey is a sad disaster. Men over the centuries who have changed the world, have done so because they've accepted the onus of life, that growth springs from pain.
 

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The sexual revolution has paralyzed them. We should feel sorry for them.

This really attractive chick explained that its very difficult to find a guy that has all the qualities they want. Either he is perfect on paper, but it boring as hell. Or is exciting as hell, but can't keep a roof over his head. Its like we always say in the manosphere about how you can't find stability and excitement in the same guy. Its too rare.

Its easy to condemn them as spoiled brats but be empathetic for a second. Women are highly emotional and indecisive by nature. You can't give a creature like this unlimited choice. Its borderline evil. Its criminal. Its like over feeding your goldfish. They are designed to eat until they explode. Or like putting a child in a candy store. They can't help but to ruin themselves with choice.

This girl had the look of defeat. She knew she was screwed. Once you bite that apple of choice it is difficult to go back. Look at how many guys have a porn addiction. That apple is too good. Its best to have never bitten it. Women have a real life porn addiction called social media and too much choice. They can't help it. This much choice can ruin any creature.
Addiction is a true obstacle, I agree. The problem with women, I think, is not so much that they have freedom of choice, but that they don't know how to choose, that they do not master the art of choosing. They don't improve the mechanics of how they should choose and decide - either they don't care or they avoid thinking about it naturally (they're mostly emotional beings, anyway). Abundance is part of the issue, sure, but I also think it's the decision now and the regret later that bothers them. Living in the present too much means risking the future.
 

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Pandora mate, i am icy as ****. *** dumpsters are trash and you have 90% of the population as hit and run material. Zero ****s given. Got my popcorn out and watching the world burn.

The SMP is a dumpster fire. enjoy the decline. pillage what you can. I do that but my troll cannon is charged up once skanks talk ltr or marriage.

Respecially I disagree. people male or female are responsible for the choices they make and fail to make. I'm not putting on my cape and putting dumpty back together. I am watching the crash. I'm putting in work. Come with @ everything 18-23 thin young and attractive or get left behind. Zero ****s.
Yes i agree brotha. But they were not designed to make good decisions. They literally were designed to be followers. They are incapable of making wise choices. We in the modern world is putting these children in a position they cant not fulfill.
 

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Addiction is a true obstacle, I agree. The problem with women, I think, is not so much that they have freedom of choice, but that they don't know how to choose, that they do not master the art of choosing. They don't improve the mechanics of how they should choose and decide - either they don't care or they avoid thinking about it naturally (they're mostly emotional beings, anyway). Abundance is part of the issue, sure, but I also think it's the decision now and the regret later that bothers them. Living in the present too much means risking the future.
Yes i agree man. But they can not make good decisions. They were not designed to make decisions. This is why they are so indecisive on everything. Holding them accountable is pointless. It is like holding a young teenager accountable for not ruining the house when their parents are on vacation.
 

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If we were in their position we would be just as bad. The difference is that men have the ability to use logic and reason to become self aware. Men have wisdom and self awareness. Young women do not have these traits until they get older. Their estrogen levels have to drop.

Imagine if at the drop of a hat you could have sex with any female in your phone. You would destroy yourself with too much sex. You exhibit Dan Blizerian and Justin Beiber levels of hedonism. The average hot girl has this at her disposal 24/7. She also can get free meals 24/7. What human can resist not destroying themselves with this much hedonism at their disposal? So they wake up at 35 asking where did all the good men go?

The onus is on us men. We are the ones that let women down. We should have stood up to the govt and the radical left when they were introducing these ridiculous movements. When they were burning their bras we should have given them a spanking. Instead we started spanking our dycks because we thought the sexual revolution would get us laid more.

If your child turns into slut who is to blame? You the man is to blame. Young women are highly advanced children. To expect them to make wise reproductive choices is ridiculous.
 

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Yes i agree brotha. But they were not designed to make good decisions. They literally were designed to be followers. They are incapable of making wise choices. We in the modern world is putting these children in a position they cant not fulfill.
Pandora mate, I don't disagree with you but I don't CARE.

ZERO ****S. I linked the Gita before.

corruption of nations follows the corruption of women.

Enjoy the decline.
 

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If we were in their position we would be just as bad. The difference is that men have the ability to use logic and reason to become self aware. Men have wisdom and self awareness. Young women do not have these traits until they get older. Their estrogen levels have to drop.

Imagine if at the drop of a hat you could have sex with any female in your phone. You would destroy yourself with too much sex. You exhibit Dan Blizerian and Justin Beiber levels of hedonism. The average hot girl has this at her disposal 24/7. She also can get free meals 24/7. What human can resist not destroying themselves with this much hedonism at their disposal? So they wake up at 35 asking where did all the good men go?

The onus is on us men. We are the ones that let women down. We should have stood up to the govt and the radical left when they were introducing these ridiculous movements. When they were burning their bras we should have given them a spanking. Instead we started spanking our dycks because we thought the sexual revolution would get us laid more.

If your child turns into slut who is to blame? You the man is to blame. Young women are highly advanced children. To expect them to make wise reproductive choices is ridiculous.
Nope.



Enjoying the decline. The smp is a dumpster fire. I am watching the world burn and I pillage whatever I can.

I will gladly take dividends on cat farms and food.

Trolling as a hobby.
 

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Good post. Addiction, in all its manifestations, is the new norm today. The old moral code was what held it at bay. Without a moral code, people today are largely defenseless blown this way and that.

And I think at the heart of a moral code, as opposed to puritanical repression, is a drive toward order and unity... not only within our own psyche, but in society as a whole.
Well, unfortunately without the puritanical side of it (aka religious side, a higher moral authority), the drive toward order & unity within our society & minds just becomes group-think (minds), cancel culture (minds & society), and totalitarian authority (society, [such as socialism, communism, fascism]). Well,...wait,...sounds like we are there already.
 

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corruption of nations follows the corruption of women
Ditto.
The fall (corruption) of mankind & creation in "The Garden" followed the corruption of Eve listening to the snake who told her if she would just do what he suggested she would be like God. (You can have it all! You deserve it all! You go girl! Don't need no man!)
 

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Excusing/Licensing bad behavior, is why we're in the mess, to begin with.

It's our fault. We fail to walk away.
 

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Nope.



Enjoying the decline. The smp is a dumpster fire. I am watching the world burn and I pillage whatever I can.

I will gladly take dividends on cat farms and food.

Trolling as a hobby.
yeh I get it. Enjoy the decline. That popcorn gif gets me everytime tho lol.
 

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Ditto.
The fall (corruption) of mankind & creation in "The Garden" followed the corruption of Eve listening to the snake who told her if she would just do what he suggested she would be like God. (You can have it all! You deserve it all! You go girl! Don't need no man!)
Book 4 is some better work but it missed all this elements warned by sages and elders of past time regardless of a belief in God or atheist. The fall of the culture is the deterioration of these fail safes. The fall of man is documenting a man walking away from God and following women. It don't end well. The culture is trash. the smp is a dumpster fire. Respectfully I disagree with OP.

KS described a man's inner circle. Fam, in past times a wife and children. maybe a few solid buddies. A man would go out on his shield for the following. I feel no sympathy. my loyalty is the inner circle I cultivate. alternatively I am content watching the world burn. I won't be there for women when the crash comes or the next virus pandemic or the astroid hitting the planet. not my problem. I don't recommend that any man dare lower their perspective towards sympathy for cratered smv and rubbish female behavior.

Cat farms is the future. Lulz
 

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yeh I get it. Enjoy the decline. That popcorn gif gets me everytime tho lol.
I had a violent encounter in pandemic when out with a new prospect. All is well. **** went zero to 100. My innate response is security. Fight. Defend. SHE'S MINE. I don't care it's a fwb or plate. This is 1000s of years of evolutionary psychology. Men myself need to train off this. She's not around through pandemic. Plate and rotation erosion. My point is that you or I could be shived or shot. attacked or beat up over some skank? modern women don't deserve your sympathy nor my protection.

Have you read the Prince by NM? I highly recommend it in biz and game. there's a place for game, charm and charisma but being icy as ****kkk is incredibly valuable. it's that component of PUSH (not pull). it's that GTFO YOU'RE DONE. It's that scene in fight club after Smashing and narrator asks "this is my house. what are you doing in my house?"



Icy as ****kkk ftw!

Modern women need skates and to be placed on ice.
 

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Book 4 is some better work but it missed all this elements warned by sages and elders of past time regardless of a belief in God or atheist. The fall of the culture is the deterioration of these fail safes. The fall of man is documenting a man walking away from God and following women. It don't end well. The culture is trash. the smp is a dumpster fire. Respectfully I disagree with OP.
Book 4? You mean Rollo's Rational Male: Religion? If yes, and if it misses the point of The Fall, then yea, I'm with you on that. I haven't read the book yet, but I know from my familiarity with Rollo, Rich Cooper, Rion Stone, and the others that they aren't aware of The Fall and the effects of it. I hoped he would add the concept to the book, yet at the same time I didn't expect him to. I think he sees Christiainity as just being "man-made", not devine, and the scripture was just made up and written "by men". Although, he has said at times during the Rule Zero Podcast that he might classify himself as "Evangelical". So I respect his work, but there are parts of the religious realm that just are not his "area of expertise".
 

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Book 4? You mean Rollo's Rational Male: Religion? If yes, and if it misses the point of The Fall, then yea, I'm with you on that. I haven't read the book yet, but I know from my familiarity with Rollo, Rich Cooper, Rion Stone, and the others that they aren't aware of The Fall and the effects of it. I hoped he would add the concept to the book, yet at the same time I didn't expect him to. I think he sees Christiainity as just being "man-made", not devine, and the scripture was just made up and written "by men". Although, he has said at times during the Rule Zero Podcast that he might classify himself as "Evangelical". So I respect his work, but there are parts of the religious realm that just are not his "area of expertise".
Ya. IMHO it's better than the previous books because it offers a different approach renewing what he already put forward. Sadly, I think it misses the mark. I highly doubt he bothered to look at the Gita, vedas or anything zen. There's a series of others like ACIM or TKB which are basically women making themselves Moses or Mohammed. Blasphemy! And he could have tore into the following but again it's pedaling the next product or program. I'm a big fan of Peterson doing the psychological significance of the biblical series. It was very fascinating perspective tying the significance of sacrifice and psychology in a archaic time. I don't think Peterson gets everything correct either. his girl is a classic example while far from the worst. I recommend you read Rolls book especially if you have any proclivity to a interest here. I took more from Paths to God by Ram Dass or the Yoga Sutra and the Vedas. Rollo is good at what he does but tbh I don't think he's capable nor equip to dissect the bible, Torah or Quran. Neither am I. I appreciate the attempt and effort.

Adultery is warned about in the Torah. The culture is simp and low T. The fall of man even if taken purely as alegory, warns IMHO about man falling to walk with God but instead follow a woman.


The document of Solomon and thousands of concubines is of epic proportion. Again something Rollo could have wrote about. So the story goes he asks God for WISDOM. He is given favor by God. In the end he falls for some woman or Goddess who he worships. the story describes 'God left' him. you then hear the fallout that follows Said actions.

I'm guilty of the pursuit of women in the past. As I get older (and hopefully wiser) I am aiming at not making any such devastating mistakes. man is demonized in the culture. so the stories go about saying that man is #1 under God. the culture trashes man and with it God; created in the image of God. we live in very weird times.

Pursuing women and adultery or simp is a very fine line fellas must discern the difference or suffer the consequences like king Solomon.
 

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Ya. IMHO it's better than the previous books because it offers a different approach renewing what he already put forward. Sadly, I think it misses the mark. I highly doubt he bothered to look at the Gita, vedas or anything zen.
It took forever as it was. No way he could have included all those others. With the point of the book all you need is to show what feminism has done to the major most common ones to get the point across.

There's a series of others like ACIM or TKB which are basically women making themselves Moses or Mohammed.
Yea, there's been a lot of female driven cults,...mostly leaning to the "New Age" or Pantheistic side.

I don't think Peterson gets everything correct either. his girl is a classic example while far from the worst.
Last I saw of her she was with Andrew Tate that got rich off of a Cam Girl business. He was also an MMA fighter before that, so he fits right in with Peterson's Dominance Hierarchy theories. He may be disappointed with her choices, but he probably also understands it.

I recommend you read Rolls book especially if you have any proclivity to a interest here.
Well, my formal education was at a Bible College under a Pastoral major. I just didn't choose to go that way "occupationally" so I stopped before getting a degree that would do me no good and be paying on a student loan for 20 years. But I know far more about the religious side of it, Christianity in particular, than Rollo does. So I'm not going to turn to him for spiritual guidance. I'm more interested in his research with the damage feminism and the Blue Pill has done to Christianity. I've always sensed the same issue but never dove that deep into it. But Rollo (and Rich Cooper, Rion Stone, and the others) all miss the boat on the effects of The Fall because none of them believe any of it is real anyway (just allegory/myth to them),...but I still respect them for the good work that they do.

The document of Solomon and thousands of concubines is of epic proportion. Again something Rollo could have wrote about. So the story goes he asks God for WISDOM. He is given favor by God. In the end he falls for some woman or Goddess who he worships. the story describes 'God left' him. you then hear the fallout that follows Said actions.
Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. A good portion of them probably never met him. They were political arrangements with surrounding nations and City/States. It was common practice back then,...perfectly normal in that social/political environment. The problem he had was that some of them turned him away from focusing soley on his God and he "added-in" the gods of the other nations, thereby "polluting" his own system. He took a beating over it, but he woke up and got his act together. He died in good standing with God in the end just as his father David did even after the Bathsheba occurrence. Both paid a price in their sons. On David's side, one of his oldest sons tried to overthrow him and failed. On Solomon's side his son who succeeded him was excessively harsh to the people causing a civil war that split the country into a northern and southern half, and it stayed that way to modern times in the 1960s when the nation came back together.
 
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