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Geez some of you guys are a bit conflicted. You say you want higher quality women and then when you see when one you don't want to abandon your Alpha frame. It's the old dog Chase thing nothing wrong with showing a bit of interest as long as you don't overdo it and back off occasionally. It's pretty much like going to the Christmas sales. You know there will be some bargains but the good stuff moves quickly to and of course there's always another t-shirt or woman at the next place. The market just is it doesn't respond to your expectations.
 

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Huh? I dont understand the point of the reversal. Most guys dont talk like this. Only the top 20% of men are paralyzed by too much choice. Look at Tinder. Guys swipe accept on just about everything. Most guys just want a 6.5/10 that isnt a horrible person. We take what we can get. Its women that are paralyzed by choice. When you have 150 messages in your inbox and you are still single a year later....then the prob is you. Men are lucky if they get 5 messages a year their inbox.
It’s not a point, it’s the real thing. Guys have so much choice it’s ridiculous. Look at Bumble. Girls will swipe on just about everything. Most girls just want a 6.5/10 that doesn’t look terrible and has an education. Girls take what they can get. It’s guys who are paralyzed by choice. When guys have 100 dates and they are single a year later, the problem is them. Girls are lucky to get 5 dates a year.

I’ve seen the other side of the equation, your post completely ignores it.
 

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It’s not a point, it’s the real thing. Guys have so much choice it’s ridiculous. Look at Bumble. Girls will swipe on just about everything. Most girls just want a 6.5/10 that doesn’t look terrible and has an education. Girls take what they can get. It’s guys who are paralyzed by choice. When guys have 100 dates and they are single a year later, the problem is them. Girls are lucky to get 5 dates a year.

I’ve seen the other side of the equation, your post completely ignores it.
Did you just say girls on Bumble swipe on everything and guys have 100 dates a year while girls are lucky to get 5 dates a year? HAHA Trump either your girlfriend hacked your account or you are just ****ing with me. =)
 

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That is not an argument. If a woman is a ****, she can be called as such, and for other disgusting behavior. EG woman bragging about cucking her hubby at the gym. If this was the middle east, she would be stoned, and her genes weeded out of existence. If she somehow ended up there and were stoned, I would not lose sleep.
That's insane.

It should, however, be criminal, and it isn't. This is the difference. I'm not a feminist, hence I would see outright cucking made illegal. I don't thirst to see them stoned to death, as I don't want to see anyone stoned to death. That kind of behaviour is exclusive to women, but men have their own exclusive activities which ruin lives in a similar fashion, like rape, which is mainly a male phenomenon. Cucking tugs at a very desolate and unforgiving place in our minds, it's evolutionary and results in a revulsion response, as it should. The issue lies in the breakdown of morality where this would become a bragging matter, but it is truly the coldest vermin who would do this and brag.
 

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I don't.. the amount of time I have to invest is absurd. I just broke like a 5 flake streak. I feel sorry for solid smv7 guys who get nowhere when HB3s are running the carousel to the ground.
 

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I don't.. the amount of time I have to invest is absurd. I just broke like a 5 flake streak. I feel sorry for solid smv7 guys who get nowhere when HB3s are running the carousel to the ground.
You are right man. I agree. The point I am trying to make is that the social engineers knew the weak point of women. It is their emotionality, hypergamy and indecisiveness. This is what they targeted. So women are just taking the bait because it is in their DNA to take the bait. Same thing with porn. Porn is destroying men because it targets our weakness. Our weakness is visual cues of fertility. We are taking the bait as well. This was all designed. We are awake to the fact that this mess was designed. Women are too myopic to see that they are being played though.
 

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You are right man. I agree. The point I am trying to make is that the social engineers knew the weak point of women. It is their emotionality, hypergamy and indecisiveness. This is what they targeted. So women are just taking the bait because it is in their DNA to take the bait. Same thing with porn. Porn is destroying men because it targets our weakness. Our weakness is visual cues of fertility. We are taking the bait as well. This was all designed. We are awake to the fact that this mess was designed. Women are too myopic to see that they are being played though.
Personally, I think these issue stem mainly from the pill, and the welfare state. The male pill will change everything.

In the meantime, western men need to start choosing eastern/foreign girls who aren't ruined by this. If it falls through with my current GF, I won't go back to western women. It's my big "FU" to them. I'd rather put time and effort into a girl who isn't bat**** crazy or all hyped up on feminism.

Some of my blue piller male colleagues and friends suggested to me that I like them because they are "more subservient". This,this is the BS we have to put up with. Am I stopping her working? Do I exopect obedience? No! I just want a friend and a lover who respects family values and has a healthy attitude to men.

So many relationships I see, the man is basically bullied. She has to have everything her own way, and the guys seem to accept it because they think it's "all sexist" to have an opinion or a desire. As if regular sechs means giving up on having your own way. Some even have zero sechs/separate room.....the guy I am thinking of is good looking, drives a top end car, yet still argues feminism to me and is a self proclaimed male feminist, who seems to have an issue with me dating asian. I guess the lie is dawning on him, and he needs a finger to point at me being some "exploiter".
 

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Some of my blue piller male colleagues and friends suggested to me that I like them because they are "more subservient". This,this is the BS we have to put up with. Am I stopping her working? Do I exopect obedience? No! I just want a friend and a lover who respects family values and has a healthy attitude to men.

So many relationships I see, the man is basically bullied. She has to have everything her own way, and the guys seem to accept it because they think it's "all sexist" to have an opinion or a desire. As if regular sechs means giving up on having your own way. Some even have zero sechs/separate room.....the guy I am thinking of is good looking, drives a top end car, yet still argues feminism to me and is a self proclaimed male feminist, who seems to have an issue with me dating asian. I guess the lie is dawning on him, and he needs a finger to point at me being some "exploiter".
There are many men that are like this. I didnt know this fact up until recently. I started wandering out of my usual friend circle and I noticed that there are a lot of men that are being bullied in their marriges and relationships. Its shocking. My usual friend circle is a few redpill white boys and a whole bunch of urban chauvanistic black dudes. All of these guys are super redpill. I assumed that most men thought as I did. But I was shocked. Many men look at putting a cute girlfriend in her place as nothing short of miraculous. Many cant walk away. I recently walked away from a girlfriend who I had dated on and off for 3 years. We even lived together at one point. She was a 7/10 with makeup. I just went no contact because she was being a horror to be around ( princess syndrome). But walking away from a cute girl is unthinkable for many men. They take the abuse and supplicate. The main chick that I couldnt walk away from was the BPD chick. I was a total wimp with her. I used to kinda be a mangina with hot girls but its 2018 and men have no escuse now.

The 3 types of guys that are really super supplicative to women are the following:

1.) The average white guy is a total wuss when he is dating a cute/ hot girl ( big generalization). The exceptions to this include guido Italian dudes, some college atheletes and some alpha white dudes. When the average white guy hears my redpill views and see how I treat girls they are appalled.

2.) Some black dudes raised exclusively by women with barely any male role models. This is a big generalisation. This can go either way. But kids in a single mother house either tend to be RedPill as fu*k, or they are a horrible mangina. Some of them just expect women to emotionally abuse them becuase their moms and sisters have been doing it all their life. But if they are RedPill they become the best players because they know women in and out.

3.) Indian dudes. This is excluding the Punjabi dudes. Many of them are quite macho when dealing with women. But in GENERAL many indian guys (while cool) are kinda beta in a relationship. They are alpha in the world but beta especially when dating hot white chicks. Not all, but many.

Ok now that i have offended everyone I am done lol.
 

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This has to be the most AFC post I've seen here yet. All people from all walks of life have choices. Just because a woman is a 9 or a 10 doesn't mean she's beaten before she leaves the house. I dated a model just out of high school who had plenty of choices and kept challenging me daily. She knew what she wanted and wasnt afraid to post a challenge. This girl being described here was either playing the "poor me routine" or she was running game on you.
 

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Let me play devils advocate for a second. How many cool guys do you know? Cool as in well rounded. Secure, chill, funny, good people etc. Probably not many. Sosuave is the upper echelons of self aware men and even on this site we have weirdos. I am sorry to say that many men these days have some sort of personality disorder. It is hard to find chill cool guys. Do you expect a women to stay with the average man? Would you date the average guy if you were a woman?

Again I am playing devils advocate but I am trying to make a thought experiment. How many men do you think are actually dateable? Don't take into account money. I mean in terms of coolness and emotional maturity. It takes a lot of work in order to become calm, secure and cool. SoSuave has helped me a lot on that voyage but most men don't want to put in the work to get there.

The girls main gripe against the stable guy was that he was too rigid and emotionally unavailable. His jokes were also kind of dry and corny. He was basically a dad type of guy that made dad jokes. Think about the perfect beta provider. A working stiff type. He loved her, made great money, stable job, but he was a slightly cooler Ned Flanders. Would you want to be with a guy like that?
In terms of mindset and behavior our culture either teaches men to be unattractive to women or doesn't teach them anything. Add to that the absence of teaching men how to dance so they are inhibited and lack an obvious way of giving women adrenaline rushes. There is no institutionalization of how to be an attractive man. It's like leaving little children to raise themselves in a jungle. Of course only a tiny number of them will survive.
 

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This has to be the most AFC post I've seen here yet. All people from all walks of life have choices. Just because a woman is a 9 or a 10 doesn't mean she's beaten before she leaves the house. I dated a model just out of high school who had plenty of choices and kept challenging me daily. She knew what she wanted and wasnt afraid to post a challenge. This girl being described here was either playing the "poor me routine" or she was running game on you.
Naw I agree with you homie. I am coming from the stand point of women not having any choice. I actually don't view them as autonomous adults. I view them as slaves to their emotions much like children. Just like it would be unfair to give a child unlimited access to candy it is unfair to give a woman unlimited access to options. It is actually a very chauvinistic view I am espousing not an AFC one. I don't think they have free will like men do.

The same can be said for men. If we had unlimited sexual options we will destroy ourselves. Each sex is a slave to something. Women are a slave to emotions and narcissism. Men are a slave to their sex drive and power fantasies.
 
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In terms of mindset and behavior our culture either teaches men to be unattractive to women or doesn't teach them anything. Add to that the absence of teaching men how to dance so they are inhibited and lack an obvious way of giving women adrenaline rushes. There is no institutionalization of how to be an attractive man. It's like leaving little children to raise themselves in a jungle. Of course only a tiny number of them will survive.
Well Hip Hop culture teaches men to be very sexually aggressive and to use the lure of money to get women. When I was growing up in a black neighborhood pick up game was a sport lol. I agree though the rest of the culture tries to create unattractive men.
 

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Any decent woman is going on more than 5 dates a year if they're single. Granted, most are only 1 date, free dinner dates especially if they're on OLD but to say guys get hundreds of dates a year and women lucky to get five ROFL. Even decent guys don't get 100 dates a year. If they did there would hardly be anyone using these silly forums and asking for help.
 

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Any decent woman is going on more than 5 dates a year if they're single. Granted, most are only 1 date, free dinner dates especially if they're on OLD but to say guys get hundreds of dates a year and women lucky to get five ROFL. Even decent guys don't get 100 dates a year. If they did there would hardly be anyone using these silly forums and asking for help.
That Swfl area is really something. Through old I've been catfish by like 3 real life women celebrities from california. One time even ran into a european royal going through divorce looking to start a family. Imo a guy usually in a lifetime has 9 women in a lifetime. I'd be worried about most regular women in the area going on more than 5 dates. Std's baggage etc for sure the area is prone to waves
 

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That Swfl area is really something. Through old I've been catfish by like 3 real life women celebrities from california. One time even ran into a european royal going through divorce looking to start a family. Imo a guy usually in a lifetime has 9 women in a lifetime. I'd be worried about most regular women in the area going on more than 5 dates. Std's baggage etc for sure the area is prone to waves
Fl for you. It seems fl from orlando on south is a totally different animal. Transient. Lots of scammers looking to target the elderly. I've never seen an area with such a lack of young women like I have with swfl and quality as well. Ad I said old is a desert down here not only looks wise but quality and quantity and well. This is one of the oldest regions of the country average age wise. Old has a lot of fake profiles and scammers down here. It makes the news once in awhile too.
 

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Fl for you. It seems fl from orlando on south is a totally different animal. Transient. Lots of scammers looking to target the elderly. I've never seen an area with such a lack of young women like I have with swfl and quality as well. Ad I said old is a desert down here not only looks wise but quality and quantity and well. This is one of the oldest regions of the country average age wise. Old has a lot of fake profiles and scammers down here. It makes the news once in awhile too.
I have typical story. Grew up in NY. A local I met from here is an HB7 I've known her since I was literally five years old. Throughout the years grew up basically together we at some point married. Did the whole ancestry. Her family goes back to the old american quakers. Long story short we outright married. Like a typical psl girl. I thought had her trust. Especially since we married. She ends up seperating... finally who does she get with? A guy that shows up later with hep c since who knows. Gets with him. Everything fine and dandy. She deletes her social media this year. Local girls I have no hope with after that experience. She's now on 2 std. scary thing was he was like 19 when she was 12... who knows I've heard all sort of things. Guy is pushing 40 now with his 29 year old. I have just the best story for you a guy on this Allen thompson forum(which I met once) did find what works here in Fl period. Ferrari, stripper parties, and morning drives. He knew exactly what to do in state of FL Haha.
 

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I have typical story. Grew up in NY. A local I met from here is an HB7 I've known her since I was literally five years old. Throughout the years grew up basically together we at some point married. Did the whole ancestry. Her family goes back to the old american quakers. Long story short we outright married. Like a typical psl girl. I thought had her trust. Especially since we married. She ends up seperating... finally who does she get with? A guy that shows up later with hep c since who knows. Gets with him. Everything fine and dandy. She deletes her social media this year. Local girls I have no hope with after that experience. She's now on 2 std. scary thing was he was like 19 when she was 12... who knows I've heard all sort of things. Guy is pushing 40 now with his 29 year old. I have just the best story for you a guy on this Allen thompson forum(which I met once) did find what works here in Fl period. Ferrari, stripper parties, and morning drives. He knew exactly what to do in state of FL Haha.
FL is hard to describe. Mostly old people, but the younger people many of them northern transplants running away from their problems and making the state increasingly liberal like California. The only difference is that a lot of it is fake money down here unlike California. People seem so fake and shady in general here in FL.
 

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FL is hard to describe. Mostly old people, but the younger people many of them northern transplants running away from their problems and making the state increasingly liberal like California. The only difference is that a lot of it is fake money down here unlike California. People seem so fake and shady in general here in FL.
There's alwsay time
 
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