"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Trainwreck

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tinder has been bad and haven't met jack ****, wtf else do I do. Meanwhile I see fat ass White men with Richard Spencer haircuts with girls.....really?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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RedScorpion

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Go to the gym. Get some social hobbies. Live for yourself first, women whatever place after. Women want to attach to a guy's life, not be their life.
 

PeasantPlayer

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I personally don't like this dudes post, so sufferrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ;):):p:cool:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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marmel75

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Tinder is pretty terrible. Out of all the OLD options it's probable the worst for actually meeting up with someone
 

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Trainwreck, instead of focusing/evaluating whatever arm candy some other dude has... use that energy to focus on yourself.

I spent a sizable chunk of the beginning of this year spinning plates as priority #1. I narrowed it down to one bad main plate (poor intuition) and wasn't happy. I felt like I got caught up in a rat race of "MUST GET ABUNDANCE. MUST..... SPIN..... PLATES".

I tried OLD and all I got was crickets. Maybe one low IL chick on Bumble that was just looking for validation. Granted it was before I bulked 25 pounds, yet still... I couldn't stand feeling like I had to rack up plates to be happy.

I've written about my experience in other threads, yet what I want to emphasize here what has helped me is taking the focus off of dating and focusing on areas I have a higher chance of influencing: my life and what I want out of it.

I took up more hobbies late spring and summer, yet the hobby that brings me the most joy is learning the guitar. I like learning everything there is about music, how guitars are made, genres, music history, music theory, influences and follow some of my favorite bands and musicians on social media. I'm never bored, there's always a wealth of information out there.

It's true what @RedScorpion said: Women want to attach to a guy who has a life, not be his life.

Instead of chasing plates, I worked hard on becoming a leader for a community I represent. That has increased my social presence and my social circle is gaining momentum as a result. Just last weekend, two women asked me for my number. At the beginning of this year, I know that wouldn't have happened while I was looking thirsty af.

Anyway, I don't want to ramble here. I just wanted to say don't fixate on others or view others externally for your own happiness or you will continue to get caught up in a web spiral of feeling hopeless.

Create your own hope.

You'll feel happier in the long run when you feel awesome in your own skin. Just don't get too c0cky ;)
 

Stephen89

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Go approach females, keep approaching.

Go to the gym, lift weights, read an inspiring book, watch a movie, pick up a hobby.

As resilient has stated, women should be a part of your life.
 
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