"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I ****ed up with the almost perfect girl

pingpongz

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Shes not returning my messages :(
ive been with lots of girls in the past but this one... wow... never met a girl like her she was a perfect 10 in my eyes.

Everything was going well until we came to the kiss, she was terrible and.. this is where i ****ed up... she was like "was that ok for you?" and i said "less tounge"

FFS

I want to kill myself :(
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Michael Chief

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pingpongz, she may have seemed "perfect" to you, but she's just a girl. And how would she be "perfect" if you didn't like the way she kissed? If she were really perfect for you kissing her would have been great.

Man up. No woman, no matter where she falls on your HB scale, should make you want to kill yourself. Let go of your attachment and move forward!

Just don't say the same thing next time a girl asks you how her kissing was. ;-)
 

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pingpongz said:
she was like "was that ok for you?" and i said "less tounge"
unless you had a mean tone or something i cant imagine any reason this would be the cause of your problem (if there is a problem at all). how long has it been since you spoke and how do you know shes mad in the first place? did she storm off crying (that would be a good sign)? how did your get together with her end...

we need more info.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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Did you say too much tounge with a smile or what? She may of got offended but, thats not really a big deal.

Girls are really insecure about themselves.. next time tell her a white lie. It's like a girl who gets dressed up for you and asks if you think she is fat. You don't say; "Yeah, you could loose some pounds."

When, was the last time you saw or talked to her? You may be over reacting too soon.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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No problem isn't solved. His problems are only just beginning.

1. He has already blown up her phone in desperation. Most new girl dates do not like a man who is desperate off the bat and clingy like that.

2. He has already broke his ballz over her by acting this way. He has lost his manhood and sold his pride down the drain. He is no longer a good catch to her but just another symp.

3. He as broken the rules of this site and sold every man here who has come to learn to be men down the drain over his so called perfect 10. All of his training and hours spent pouring over posts and trying to grow went right out the window.

4. And how did he end his weak man post? I want to kill myself. Now does that sound like a man who is in control of his life or destiny?

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To the poster. Get a clue. You know what to do. Stop blowing up her phone and let her get over it. Send that apology and let that be it if you must and I am sure you have sent 10 of them by know. I know your gonna post back up that you didn't and that's ok.

It's time to train her not have her train you. Grow your nuts back son.
 

Sandow

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Sounds like a cvnt to me. It wasn't you, she sounds like a bytch for reacting the way she did when you said that. Consider it a test, better to know now that she a cvnt rather than later. Also, this behavior is common for stuck up lil princesses like this. I'm actually kinda happy u said that now.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Desert Fox

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You want to kill yourself over a girl?

Go back and think that over one more time. Think really hard this time about what you just said.
 
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