"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Once again I turn to So Suave for some opinions. Once again, just cliff notes.

1. Interested in Girl A.
2. Girl B is interested in me for some time.
3. Girl A isn't friends with Girl B, but I am pretty sure she knows of her.
4. I like Girl A, but don't wanna mess it up by humping around.
5. What now?

Girl A: Taken, but is slowly moving towards breaking up BF. I am not playing a part in that crap, nor do I want to be a captain save a hoe.

Girl B: Single.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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F*** Girl B while you wait that Girl A gets jealous, and starts going all over you.
 

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Do you like Girl B? If you do, then give her a chance. Don't sit around waiting until Girl A is available.

Does Girl A even like you "that way"?
 

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oh oh!! let me help on this one. i already had something like this and f-d it up. it depends on the foundation you've laid with girl A. if she likes you and you've made it clear that you've got some interest in her, then the sh!t'll hit the fan if you go after B. trust me.
 

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assuming you've got close to the same interest in both girls.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Gangster Of Love said:
Do you like Girl B? If you do, then give her a chance. Don't sit around waiting until Girl A is available.

Does Girl A even like you "that way"?
Girl A: Yes. And I made it clear to her that I am interested in her and she reciprocated.

Girl B: She just wants to hump like rabbits.
 

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Well, she has no say until she ends it with her boyfriend and officially gets with you.

That should be done soon. What is the wait for? If it is happening soon, just wait it out.

If Girl B wants to just bang, why should anybody else know?
 

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alright i think you could make a case for going either way here. if you go after girl b solely for sex you always have the arguement of "sorry girl a but you were in a relationship. i don't sit around and wait for people. i do what i want. " which will earn you respect as well as make you more of a prize. the main problem i see with going after a only is that you'll be more of a rebound kinda guy. unless you give her a while to get over it. so pro's and con's for each.
 

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I had a situation like this.

What I did: Focused completely on Girl A. I was still friendly and courteous to Girl B, just not interested.

What ended up happening was...

Girl A breaks up with her boyfriend, dates me for a while then becomes impossible to deal with before things ever got the chance to really escalate.

Girl B moves on, and I'm currently trying to rekindle things without much success. Now kicking myself over what I should have done in hindsight and wondering if I made a mistake.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Gangster Of Love said:
Well, she has no say until she ends it with her boyfriend and officially gets with you.

That should be done soon. What is the wait for? If it is happening soon, just wait it out.

If Girl B wants to just bang, why should anybody else know?

Being discrete would be nice. However I am in the younger age bracket, so I think more girls are more inclined to talk.

Not that I care as to whatever anyone thinks. In fact, I think Girl A can be a bit of an attention ***** at times.
 

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(JJ) said:
alright i think you could make a case for going either way here. if you go after girl b solely for sex you always have the arguement of "sorry girl a but you were in a relationship. i don't sit around and wait for people. i do what i want. " which will earn you respect as well as make you more of a prize. the main problem i see with going after a only is that you'll be more of a rebound kinda guy. unless you give her a while to get over it. so pro's and con's for each.
Which is why I'll make her do all the work. I'll occasionally give her the random positive reinforcement for whatever efforts she puts in to keep me around.
 

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tsmith2334 said:
I had a situation like this.

What I did: Focused completely on Girl A. I was still friendly and courteous to Girl B, just not interested.

What ended up happening was...

Girl A breaks up with her boyfriend, dates me for a while then becomes impossible to deal with before things ever got the chance to really escalate.

Girl B moves on, and I'm currently trying to rekindle things without much success. Now kicking myself over what I should have done in hindsight and wondering if I made a mistake.

I guess what I should take from this post is to just grab life by the nuts and get my FREAK ON SON!

I digress, but why should I wait around for her right?
 

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Altruist said:
Once again I turn to So Suave for some opinions. Once again, just cliff notes.

1. Interested in Girl A.
2. Girl B is interested in me for some time.
3. Girl A isn't friends with Girl B, but I am pretty sure she knows of her.
4. I like Girl A, but don't wanna mess it up by humping around.
5. What now?

Girl A: Taken, but is slowly moving towards breaking up BF. I am not playing a part in that crap, nor do I want to be a captain save a hoe.

Girl B: Single.
Even from this Cliff Notes version isn't the answer redily apparent?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Even from this Cliff Notes version isn't the answer redily apparent?
It is and it isn't. Hey sometimes you need to hear it from someone else to begin to believe it....

So your advice?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why is Girl A moving SLOWLY towards breaking up with bf?

This should tell you what to do. You move FASTLY into the sack with Girl B.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Why is Girl A moving SLOWLY towards breaking up with bf?

This should tell you what to do. You move FASTLY into the sack with Girl B.

Duly noted. Headed there as we speak.

As for WHY Girl A is moving slowly...cliff notes: Lives with boyfriend, probably has some financial issues moving out, they are tied together with some financial issues.

Just assumptions, tis all.
 

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Altruist said:
Duly noted. Headed there as we speak.

As for WHY Girl A is moving slowly...cliff notes: Lives with boyfriend, probably has some financial issues moving out, they are tied together with some financial issues.

Just assumptions, tis all.
LoL.

Then you know what to do. Go hunt down your own dinner, not another man's. Once that bird is free, and once you have fun with Girl B, then we can discuss the situation.
 

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Altruist said:
Once again I turn to So Suave for some opinions. Once again, just cliff notes.

1. Interested in Girl A.
2. Girl B is interested in me for some time.
3. Girl A isn't friends with Girl B, but I am pretty sure she knows of her.
4. I like Girl A, but don't wanna mess it up by humping around.
5. What now?

Girl A: Taken, but is slowly moving towards breaking up BF. I am not playing a part in that crap, nor do I want to be a captain save a hoe.

Girl B: Single.
Tell Girl A to leave her house at 6:45 pm and travel at 50 km/h to meet you
Tell Girl B to leave her house at 7:05 pm and travel at 65 km/h to meet you
That way when you sleep with them, they will never cross paths.

Why are we going after a girl with a bf anyway? Do you want him to beat the crap out of you?
 

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Altruist said:
I guess what I should take from this post is to just grab life by the nuts and get my FREAK ON SON!

I digress, but why should I wait around for her right?
Yea man. Take everyone at face value. Don't get up in the moment with Girl A. Especially if Girl B is a catch...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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