i dont understand why so many peeople make children

[RickTheToad]

I dont think his views are related to his relation to a women.

Perhaps, but everything in life is conditional, everything. Do you like to eat? Yes? Okay, well, you need to buy or grow food. Either way, there is a condition, you need money for the food or seeds (and time). Love for others, I can speak on that, and yes, there are conditions. Love from a parent to a child, I cannot speak on that yet. I would have conditions on how far my love would go to my children. I do not need them completely helpless and depending on others if they can very well take care of themselves; but choose not to. No conditions on children is why we have a lot of the entitlement we as a society experience now with some of our younger brethren in our communities.

 

[lamath]

Perhaps, but everything in life is conditional, everything. Do you like to eat? Yes? Okay, well, you need to buy or grow food. Either way, there is a condition, you need money for the food or seeds (and time). Love for others, I can speak on that, and yes, there are conditions. Love from a parent to a child, I cannot speak on that yet. I would have conditions on how far my love would go to my children. I do not need them completely helpless and depending on others if they can very well take care of themselves; but choose not to. No conditions on children is why we have a lot of the entitlement we as a society experience now with some of our younger brethren in our communities.

Great point and i agree 100% all is conditional.
Unconditional love does not exist and if it does look like it exist its just that the condition is well hidden

Problem is that not all condition are equal some ppl will give all they have in exchange for bread crumbs.

 

[lamath]

True, but the left-wing biased education system can also indoctrinate them with values contrary to your own. Unless you home school your children or taking them to a private Christian school, their minds will be too polluted by the garbage that's around. The internet is also a terrible influence. It's not the same control as before and you need to have money to avoid the public system.

I live in Ontario, and unless I have a solid backing where I can afford a private school, it will be a sad story to have kids because the school curriculum is just toxic.

Further more, I feel I have no real accountability without any kids. I can watch anything I want or do anything I want without that as a consideration because I have to set an example. When nobody cares about what you are doing it can be liberating in that way. You have to be perfect once kids are involved and have a natural/biological reason to do. Anybody can have kids, and even an incel can end up having a kid since even some incels could get laid once in a blue moon (i.e. as I have) and maybe the condom fell off or you kept it in too long when you planned to take it out sooner because you were lost in passion, etc.... but not everyone is cut out to be a father.

Some guys might change within the first 6 months or 1 year after birth, but they go back to their old ways. I know my own father did. Unless there is a change of heart it will feel like a type of prison and you are no longer yourself. In a sense, if I have a weakness looking at porn I'd rather that be resolved if push comes to shove, than have kids.

Not sure private school is much better tbh. Only thing a parent can do is their best and hope for the best. Lots of good young ppl around but we dont see them because they are not the loudest.

From my experience living without accountability can get old after a while and its easy to just coast thru life and get nothing of value done.

 

[corrector]

From my experience living without accountability can get old after a while and its easy to just coast thru life and get nothing of value done.

This has not got old with me. I did specify natural/biological, but it doesn't make spiritual any less real with me given the fact we are all going to eventually die at some point. At the end of the day I'm still accountable to God and only an atheist can really coast through life since they don't believe in anything to be accountable to. Even a Christian has to worry about wasting a talent (parable of talents (Matt 25:14-30)...which would be a big gulp with that mind-set of coasting.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

yeah dont discuss with that autist. his primitive brain cannot understand other people have different views and opinions than him

Looolll says the *actual* autist who made an entire thread from not being able to understand the views and opinions of others. Honestly dude, do you think about these things before you type them?

 

[zinc4]

A child will give you unconditional love when a b*tch won’t.

A child will ask if you’re ok and give you a hug when the world doesn’t give a sh*t.

A child will look up to you straight in the eyes while most people will look down on you behind your back.

A child will say exactly what they mean without filters while everyone else is feeding you fake bvll**** and deception.

A child will think you’re amazing at a time many may think you’re not good enough.

A child will laugh with you while others will laugh at you.

A child can be inspired by you while the everyone else is waiting to be impressed.

A child will be your unconditional ally in this crazy fvcking world. They provide you with something that you KNOW no other human being on the planet can match, live up to or deliver on.

It’s not all bad.

You can even say it’s everything an “incel” wants deep down inside if they had the balls to admit it.

Agreed. I have taught kids in all age groups and I will say they have taught me a lot. They see things from a much different and unfiltered perspective than us. I'm 38 and would want a kid if I can meet a woman worthy of it. Had a few before but was too immature to appreciate their quality and cheated on them then dumped ghem. Already banged enough women....it's an empty lifestyle imo. Still indulge as much as I can though ofcourse, but a stable family wouldn't be bad.

 

[RickTheToad]

I raised my kid on my own for years without the help of a woman. It has made me harder than I’ve ever been. It has also taught me the true value of what women can and cannot offer.

Before kids I used to think many women were of at least decent quality. After, few could hold a candle to what my child provides, and many more I found full of sh*t when they cry about how hard it is being single moms...collecting alimony, collecting child support, being able to dump the kids of with dad every other weekend so they can go be wh0res in the clubs, having family baby sit for free, not working or only working part time.

I did it all without any such luxuries, working rotating 12 hour shifts with no breaks and no financial or family support other than what I earned working. I learned just how hard I really was, and exactly how soft most women really are.

My standards with women blew sky high after having kids, and it took a hell of a woman to finally make the cut.

I’m not soft, brother. I just found someone worthy of my respect.

Wasn't questioning you integrity. I know your story, in regard to what you shared with us over the years, so I can understand your struggles and challenges that you and your daughter have faced. I commend you for that. I've been to the cancer wing of one of our hospitals in Stamford, so I can only imagine the pain and hell you and your daughter experienced. Both of you have gotten through some of the darkest days a person (or family) could ever imagine. That should only make your bond stronger and shows your true character. True character as not only a father, but a solid man.

As for someone worthy of your respect, well, only you can be the judge of that. I still stand by my statements with you meeting with a family law attorney prior to marriage. I've seen lessor dudes than you get destroyed by the system. You may had not gone through the system, but I had. It's not fun, and that was just for 16 months of marriage. The lady you marry is not the lady you will divorce. And true, she may not get anything, just like my ex-wife got zero. However, the attorney received $425.00 an hour and his associates received $250.00 an hour. The divorce won't sting, but the financial hit will be sting.

As for what a true lady can bring to your life these days, I am all ears. Most, not all, are garbage. Their true mask is shown if given enough time. It's about just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I am not negative or hate females at all. I am just a realist and face facts with facts. Am I jaded a bit, perhaps, but it comes from experience. You're around 12 years older than me, so I assume you have even more experience. I leave with the following quote that has served me well.. Trust, but verify.

 

[corrector]

I’ve spent endless nights of hell at the hospital with my kid fighting cancer under conditions no better than solitary confinement because of the coronavirus.

I know it’s not all sunshine and rainbows.

But I still think it’s worth it. Not even a question. And I had no desire whatsoever in having kids until I was 36.

Poverty is worst than what you mentioned. If you were broke and are not insured and have to declare medical bankruptcy then would you still have that opinion? Hence I only used that example in my post.