"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I don't like the title of "PUA" or "Don Juan" or "player" or "ladies man"

Vice

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When those titles are thrown around and given to people (including myself) it makes it seem like success with women is this big huge thing, like some kind of title you need to get. It's like creating some kind of... organization or ranking system or something. Objectifying the whole process, making it important. It's lame.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Not to mention titles like that turn a lot of women off. Just never talk about it, keep it an unspoken thing, because you know some AFC you talk to about it will throw around what you say around him in his attempt to keep a girls attention and possible make you look bad.
 

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Vice said:
When those titles are thrown around and given to people (including myself) it makes it seem like success with women is this big huge thing, like some kind of title you need to get. It's like creating some kind of... organization or ranking system or something. Objectifying the whole process, making it important. It's lame.
I don't see what the big deal is.

I understand what you're saying,but it's not like the women you date know you're a member of this forum. Or any of your friends for that matter.

You make it seem like it's some sort of title to be put before your name.

"Pua" Vice,"Don Juan" Vice,or "Ladies man" Vice. It's not like that at all.

When I date a girl.or ask her out and she says yes,I don't say to myself,"Yeah,I'm a ladies man or I'm being a Don Juan". Those words never even enter my mind.

In fact,the only time I think of the words "Don Juan" is when I log onto the forum and see the words "Don Juan Discussion Forum".
 

LostAndConfused

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I think BEING a Don Juan is just a guy who's smooth with the ladies. NOTHING wrong with that in fact its good.

The whole "game" of being a pick up agent however is low. If you really have to create a process to just pick up and fvck women you have latent insecurities that, depending on how good of a PUA you are, are more hidden.

I'm one of those "be yourself" type of guys....if you have to resort to palm reading just to have physical contact with a girl you should take a nice hard look at yourself in the mirror.

I'm not saying all PUAs are insecure, but many have some insecurities I'll tell you that.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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AFCs love to tell girls about what a big player scoundrel I am. It used to bother me, but hell, it probably helps me.
 

Dante420

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alphaace said:
Not to mention titles like that turn a lot of women off. Just never talk about it, keep it an unspoken thing, because you know some AFC you talk to about it will throw around what you say around him in his attempt to keep a girls attention and possible make you look bad.
yup
 
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I perfer Natural or Adventurer. That's my thing. But i don't go around saying im a natural, or playa or pimp.... well except for my signature... but hey its true haha.

Its just a verbal cue that let's people know that it means your good with girls. You forgot about "alpha" and "casanova" haha.
 

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Just call yourself a man.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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trajhenkhet02

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Well even though this site does have elements of self improvement, it is based on the idea's and techniques for attracting more females. Now with that being said if you really learned anything from this site it's how to be a quality individual. At least that's what happened with me. I was only living half my life because I tried to avoid confrontation.
 
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