I don't like the term "Sh!t Test"

[Flabbergasped?]

The term itself implies that it's some sort of obstacle or hurdle, and that's you need to "defend" against it. I prefer to call it, "socioinflammatory cynicism". SIC for short.

The thing with SIC is that it should never appear unless the girl's interest level is low, or she's a b!tch, both of which warrant nexting. Also, I don't think it's as intentional as people make it seem. Few girls actually think about these lines and say it to generate a reaction. It usually just comes out as a result of their personality (if they're b!tches), so the usual anti-b!tch tactics apply.

When I get sick of SIC (someone needs to pun-ish me), I just go sarcastic and the girl ends up either apologizing or walking away ashamed. Sometimes I push it too far, but usually SIC occurs when the conversation isn't too great anyway. Things like, a. "I don't like your hair," b. "You should aspire to do something better with your life," or other presumptous sayings (unless they're very clearly a joke) should be countered with equal, but nonetheless composed, viciousness.

A: "Sorry for having no time to shampoo 5 hrs a day, unlike a certain individual with the most beautiful locks on earth" (saying the last part sarcastically while running your hands through her hair *especially works if she doesn't have marvelous hair*)

B: "I want you to succeed to, but you don't see me signing you up for facelifts" (I've used this one, it'll make her cry or slap you), or "I'll audition for porn star classes, just for you."

Or, best of all, ignore it. It's not that big a problem, too many topics on it.

 

[Phyzzle]

I don't think "sh!t tests" exist. At least, not like people here seem to believe.

Guys here talk about a woman standing him up or ignoring him, like it's some sort of test. No, that's not a test, that's low interest.

My personal experience: if she starts b!tching about every little thing you do, and she doesn't seem to like you much, chances are she's a b!tch who doesn't like you. Simple. By the time the "testing" starts, the relationship is already over.

 

[Aaron B]

women consistently test men

The hotter the chick, the more frequently and aggressively she will test you.

The key is recognizing that you are being tested and not failing the test.

Women constantly use tests to see if a man will maintain control of the situation and of himself.

 

[Nighthawk]

Women even CONFESS they test men in just the ways SS describes.

 

[\O/]

I don't think "sh!t tests" exist. At least, not like people here seem to believe.

Guys here talk about a woman standing him up or ignoring him, like it's some sort of test. No, that's not a test, that's low interest.

My personal experience: if she starts b!tching about every little thing you do, and she doesn't seem to like you much, chances are she's a b!tch who doesn't like you. Simple. By the time the "testing" starts, the relationship is already over.

There is a big difference between low interest and **** tests. Beautiful girls who are used to male attention are fed up with asskissing behavior, and start to test guys. If you fail the tests, you will seem just as much of a chump as the next guy. If you pass however, she will give you more credit and you will seem to her like a guy in control of his emotions and urges. Passing **** tests is essential. Only wusses do as they are told...

 

[rocky_mtn]

$# it tests exist, its real.

I give women **** tests. It might be climbing up a mountian without complaining, or crossing a snowy pass. But its real.

And women will give me the same, like holding their purse or some BS.

But unless you're giving a s-test, you're not being selective enough.

Its a way of weeding out the weak without spending a lot of time.

If the bittch doesn't like me drinking beer and carrying a gun, then I'll slow down to let her out, if she's lucky.

 

[Flabbergasped?]

I mean, they exist for sure. The point is, they're aren't a "test", or they shouldn't be. You shouldn't be "failing" a sh!t-test if your head is on straight, and even the hottest chicks WILL NOT give you bull**** if you lay down the law early, so with tight game you can avoid a lot of the crap. I think the fact that sh!t tests are referred to as such makes people forget that it's just chicks being *****es. In their minds, they aren't thinking, "I'm going to ask him to hold my purse, and if he doesn't, then he's a player and I'm going to screw him, but if he does, he's a pvssy." They're just assuming that all people behave the way AFCs that swarm them do.

I suppose everyone has to deal with SIC at some point, but sometimes it's just a matter of common courtesy. If a chick asks me to get her some napkins, I'll probably get some if I need some too. If I don't need napkins, I'll tell her to get it herself. Common sense and efficiency come together in a way that couldn't possibly make sense otherwise. I don't know if you guys are seeing my point, I'm being verbose, but sh!t tests are only an issue if you acknoledge them as one, and start playing d!ck-measuring games with the chick.

 

[( . )( . )]

The thing with SIC is that it should never appear unless the girl's interest level is low, or she's a b!tch, both of which warrant nexting.

Why is she a b!tch? How else is the chick going to find out what kind of fella shes talking to?

I think your overreacting a bit man, Nobody is saying its some evil plot on her behalf to destroy you, chicks jockey for position just to get a feel of whats what and whats where.

Sure she can gauge whether your a low or high status male pretty quickly anyway but I'm sure there is alot more to you and every other guy out there, its the intricacies.

Chick: **Hmmm hes not low status** (note she doesnt actually think the term "low status")

Chick: "Hey could you pick me and my gf up?"

You: "what am I a taxi?"

The birds mildly annoyed she cant go shopping but happy your not another douche, everyones happy. See?

Chicks test its just the way it is, I personally wouldnt have it any other way. I'm glad shes putting time and effort into weeding out lessers.

Remember its not a "sh!t test" if you fail, your just a chump.

Sh!t test is just a description more for us, its irrelevant whether or not shes consciously aware of it , who cares is more the point.

 

[Evangenlion]

Bet he also hates the term "**** block".

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

I don't think "sh!t tests" exist. At least, not like people here seem to believe.

Guys here talk about a woman standing him up or ignoring him, like it's some sort of test. No, that's not a test, that's low interest.

My personal experience: if she starts b!tching about every little thing you do, and she doesn't seem to like you much, chances are she's a b!tch who doesn't like you. Simple. By the time the "testing" starts, the relationship is already over.

haha, you hit the nail right on the head.

yeah, alot of guys on here are real slow to understanding women

 

[insanity]

the sh*t test exsists. my woman constantly says she is not like other women who are drama queens and she would never test a guy she likes. i called bull crap. when i first met her she asked me to get her a beer when she was closer to the fridge(seeing if i was submissive). i told her to get it herself and grab me one while she was getting one herself. she tried a nag-hit by noticing when i took of my hat, she mentioned that i was going bald. i told her at least i don't need braces cause i was born with a pretty smile(she had braces). her and my sister didn't get along in school and she started saying bad things about her and i stuck up for my sister and she apologized(testing me to see if i would let her disrespect my sister and seeing if i would stick up for a girl.) the list goes on and on.

if you sit there and let girls disrespect you. you fail their sh*t test.

 

[mrRuckus]

Why is she a b!tch? How else is the chick going to find out what kind of fella shes talking to?

I think your overreacting a bit man, Nobody is saying its some evil plot on her behalf to destroy you, chicks jockey for position just to get a feel of whats what and whats where.
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Out of curiosity do you find it acceptable to test them as a man? Is it ok for me to throw little tantrums and/or say **** for the sole purpose of getting a reaction out of them as a test of their moral code and femininity? At what point should men stop testing?

 

[mrRuckus]

the sh*t test exsists. my woman constantly says she is not like other women who are drama queens and she would never test a guy she likes. i called bull crap. .

THEY ALL SAY THEY ARE DIFFERENT.

Every time i meet a woman and the topic of dating comes up and we discuss relationships and such they all claim to be different and "i do that" and "i don't do that" that's other girls i'm so different blah blah. I even call their crap and am like yeah right whatever...

Then in the SAME CONVERSATION they prove they are the exact same as the rest. Like i'll say something a little off color and they fly off the handle and act irrational and get all pissy and try to control me because i refuse to coddle them and filter my language, ideals and opinions for their sensitive feminine ears. Literally minutes after claiming they're not like that. It's really kind of funny that they have these inflated egos thinking they're a gift to mankind and any guy would be lucky to have them as a gf. ha. She's the same spoiled little american entitled princess as the rest!

 

[( . )( . )]

Out of curiosity do you find it acceptable to test them as a man?

I'm not fully sure of what you mean man, Sure I have tests I guess, I've done the locked car door one a few times and if shes not on her back within 3 hookups shes gone, I suppose thats a test of sorts. Thats all I can think off the top of my head.

Is it ok for me to throw little tantrums and/or say **** for the sole purpose of getting a reaction out of them as a test of their moral code and femininity?

Doing it to stir up some kind of emotion or reaction or testing her interest level sure why not. Throwing a tantrum? absolutely not.

At what point should men stop testing?

I suppose its up to the individual, I doubt a mans testing is even on the same vain as a "sh!t test" anyway or is it? havnt given it much thought to be honest.

Going back to the 3 date rule I know I'll never bend on that so in my case no (not that its ever been put to the test yet.) Theres gotta be more a guy who "gets it" does but be fvcked if I can think of anything now, maybe when this hangovers gone I can think more on it.

 

[Flabbergasped?]

My point is, I couldn't see a sh!t test coming from someone with high interest. Either it's low (and she's being pissy as a result) or she's a ***** in general. She's not looking to "weed out" the chumps; rather, she's assuming that you ARE one because of conditioning. There is no giant conspiracy in which the girl takes a survey of every action you do to qualify you, and there shouldn't be.

People overreact to this stuff, and end up trying to think up witty responses when a chick starts some SIC.

"Can you get me some water?"
"No."

Why do you need to 9th-level rewire, table turn, disarm and target, or whatever other term is used when talking about these things?

 

[skip2mylou781]

if a girl is physically very attracted to you, you will get the pvssy without any shyt tests!!! I have gotten cute/hot girls who loved the way I looked from hello to sex a good # of times, and there was never shyt tests along the way.

Instead, things progressed the following way from "hello" to sex:

1)talk to each other about each other while on the phone or hanging out (i naturally am interesting to talk to so the girl never gets bored with this)
2)sweet talk, compliments, some teasing, but all in fun
3)physical closeness such as kino, touching, kissing,
4)isolation
5)sex

no where in there were there SHYT TESTS........shyt tests are what women do to a guy that they aren't physically attracted enough to

i repeat

SH1T TESTS ARE WHAT WOMEN DO TO A GUY THAT THEY ARE NOT PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED ENOUGH TO

and yea, an HB9 will give shyt tests to a guy who is a 6/10 cuz she wants to see MAYBE his personality is so good that it can overcome his looks.

but rest assured than an HB9 wont be shyt testing a guy who is a 9/10

 

[Babnik]

Sh!t tests is BS. So many times I acted high status and girls took it as me being ******* and just LEFT.

If a girl is attracted to you already - STAY with her, don't ignore her, don't interrupt conversations and such.

 

[blueguy]

It is called a sh!t test because they test how much sh!t they can get away with.

If they can get away with too much, they don't want you to be their boyfriend because you are a pushover.

 

[backbreaker]

BIGGGGGG difference between Low interest and **** tests.

I mean, women don't look at you and just say "hey, lets test this guy to see if he's a real man".. women don't think like that.


The key is remembering what women what and what women think they want are two different things.

Women THINK they want the relationship they saw on the lifetime special they saw, where the guy is totally smitten with the woman, calls all the time, sits on the phone talking at the wee hours of the nights, going on romantic dinner dates, roses, flowers, blah blah, you get the drift. So they will push for that. The irony is, you have to steer from that to be successful. The Average AFC (who ovbiously watches lifetime as well, and saw the same TV show) watches and takes notes, and duplicates what he saw, but doesn't get the results he wants.

The DJ doesn't look at her and say "hey, this is a **** test, what do I do to pass a **** test", he looks at what he has going on in his life, and if what she wants doesn't go along with what YOU want, then he doesn't do it. He doesn't bend his will to get ass.

AFCs are made of clay, they can be molded any way shape or form. DJs are made of iron.

The more you steer towards the latter the more you will be sucessful, becuase women NATURALLY want a man that is in control, has his **** together, isn't afraid to walk on eggshells... get the point?


My last REAL GF, same story. Wanted me to call her all th etime before we started dating. Wanted to go out every other night. I loved being around her but I had **** to do... like run a company. ( A story in itself.. i met her in June.. I wasn't convinced she was GF material into mid december, so that's when we started dating).

Every other DAY we would get into an arguement.. well not an arguement because that requires two people, her getting mad and cursing me out and crying is more like it because I can't give her more time... only for me to do anything I absoutly wanted with her. Easily an 8.5, all my friends were just shell shocked over how much control I had over her.. Now I didn't abuse it, which is why she liked me, but I had it and she and I knew it. She wanted to see me so bad, one night in the middle of a thunderstorm I called her to come over.. no objections, came over in the pourning rain at 3am, stopped and got me something to eat on the way over, gave me a massage when she got there and after some great sex, cooked for me in the morning.

you don't know how many times she would say to me I was an ******* for not dating her (******* was her fav word) or how I was an ******* for being so non emotional towards her in regards to (listen guys) telling her how I felt about "our relationship" and she would hang up the phone swearing she was done with me.. only to call me later that night and see what I was doing and wanting to come over... one day, convinced I was seeing someone else, my friends came over my house late one night and told me they swear they saw her parked outside my apartment complex.. and she was, spying to see if anyone was coming up to my place.

the point is, like I said, a **** test is just a woman trying to get what she thinks she wants. Big difference between Low Interest. You get low interest VERY Quickly, like.... NO youc an't hav emy number.. that's not a **** test, thats low interest. I don't like you is not a **** test. What, you don't like me? Then why don't you `call me more often IS.

 

[Phyzzle]

Yeah, I think the whole "testing" thing isn't the right word.

Passing a test is more like having a simple conversation like a sane human being.

When I was AFC, I remember saying that I liked a song, then the girl I was talking to disagreed, and then I backtracked like some kind of politician! You could say I "failed a test", but it's more like I "came accross as a total wenie." She wasn't testing me.

What I don't like are threads like this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=112021

See, when my gf's start acting all snippy, or making outrageous demands, it's generally already over. I can call her on her crap, but it never makes any difference.