"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't like the term "Sh!t Test"

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BIGGGGGG difference between Low interest and **** tests.

I mean, women don't look at you and just say "hey, lets test this guy to see if he's a real man".. women don't think like that.


The key is remembering what women what and what women think they want are two different things.

Women THINK they want the relationship they saw on the lifetime special they saw, where the guy is totally smitten with the woman, calls all the time, sits on the phone talking at the wee hours of the nights, going on romantic dinner dates, roses, flowers, blah blah, you get the drift. So they will push for that. The irony is, you have to steer from that to be successful. The Average AFC (who ovbiously watches lifetime as well, and saw the same TV show) watches and takes notes, and duplicates what he saw, but doesn't get the results he wants.

The DJ doesn't look at her and say "hey, this is a **** test, what do I do to pass a **** test", he looks at what he has going on in his life, and if what she wants doesn't go along with what YOU want, then he doesn't do it. He doesn't bend his will to get ass.

AFCs are made of clay, they can be molded any way shape or form. DJs are made of iron.

The more you steer towards the latter the more you will be sucessful, becuase women NATURALLY want a man that is in control, has his **** together, isn't afraid to walk on eggshells... get the point?


My last REAL GF, same story. Wanted me to call her all th etime before we started dating. Wanted to go out every other night. I loved being around her but I had **** to do... like run a company. ( A story in itself.. i met her in June.. I wasn't convinced she was GF material into mid december, so that's when we started dating).

Every other DAY we would get into an arguement.. well not an arguement because that requires two people, her getting mad and cursing me out and crying is more like it because I can't give her more time... only for me to do anything I absoutly wanted with her. Easily an 8.5, all my friends were just shell shocked over how much control I had over her.. Now I didn't abuse it, which is why she liked me, but I had it and she and I knew it. She wanted to see me so bad, one night in the middle of a thunderstorm I called her to come over.. no objections, came over in the pourning rain at 3am, stopped and got me something to eat on the way over, gave me a massage when she got there and after some great sex, cooked for me in the morning.

you don't know how many times she would say to me I was an ******* for not dating her (******* was her fav word) or how I was an ******* for being so non emotional towards her in regards to (listen guys) telling her how I felt about "our relationship" and she would hang up the phone swearing she was done with me.. only to call me later that night and see what I was doing and wanting to come over... one day, convinced I was seeing someone else, my friends came over my house late one night and told me they swear they saw her parked outside my apartment complex.. and she was, spying to see if anyone was coming up to my place.

the point is, like I said, a **** test is just a woman trying to get what she thinks she wants. Big difference between Low Interest. You get low interest VERY Quickly, like.... NO youc an't hav emy number.. that's not a **** test, thats low interest. I don't like you is not a **** test. What, you don't like me? Then why don't you `call me more often IS.

This such opposite of me. I have yet to have a girl who would call me.
Seriously, if I act like I have other things to do - the end, we'd never hang out or talk again. Thats with EVERY girl who showed interest.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You will get **** tested no matter how good looking you are. Sure, in the beginning if she likes you off the bat there aren't going to be much if any at all, because both people want to hook up. For the most part, they don't do it "conciously", but after they get "comfortable" the **** tests WILL come. Sometimes subtle, sometimes obvious, but they will do it to see how much they can get away with.

I remember this one chick who I just started seeing said "she doesn't call guys". She went as far as to have one of her friends call me up to tell ME to call her. I was clueless at this time so I did it, I even called her each day at 10:00 PM because it was what she wanted. Needless to say, I failed miserably. She was one of those really "experienced" girls who probably slept with her fair share of guys. I think she was attracted to me not only because of my appearance, but because she could sense that I wasn't going to "dominate" her, she wanted the upperhand right off the bat.
 

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Tazman said:
You will get **** tested no matter how good looking you are. Sure, in the beginning if she likes you off the bat there aren't going to be much if any at all, because both people want to hook up. For the most part, they don't do it "conciously", but after they get "comfortable" the **** tests WILL come. Sometimes subtle, sometimes obvious, but they will do it to see how much they can get away with.

I remember this one chick who I just started seeing said "she doesn't call guys". She went as far as to have one of her friends call me up to tell ME to call her. I was clueless at this time so I did it, I even called her each day at 10:00 PM because it was what she wanted. Needless to say, I failed miserably. She was one of those really "experienced" girls who probably slept with her fair share of guys. I think she was attracted to me not only because of my appearance, but because she could sense that I wasn't going to "dominate" her, she wanted the upperhand right off the bat.
Let me guess, she then found random excuses not to go out with you anymore, right?
 

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Oh, she didn't even go that far, she simply stopped taking my calls (never home when I call and didn't return any)....After the third time I got the hint.
 

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The idea that all women are somehow "testing" men is strange. There are a few types of women that do engage in such behavior, but there are plenty of women who do not. There are women who are AFCs, inexperienced, stupid, poor decision makers, horrible conversationalists, etc. Women suffer from the same illusions, delusions, and other mental ailments as men, including a lack or insufficiency of confidence and insecurity. I'd expect to be "tested" by women who are bitter about prior relationships or women who are newbies who were advised by women who are bitter about prior relationships. There's no grand scheme to manipulate men; although, sometimes it may seem that way if your approach to life sucks (i.e., if you're not a DJ.)

Life is simple. Techniques, methods, pick-up lines, MySpace tomfoolery, and odd imaginative concepts like "sh!t tests" add complexity to living. In most cases, these are not solutions. These complexities do not solve problems; they avoid and temporarily circumvent issues that should be resolved. They're simply buffers for those who are too lazy (in some respect) to strengthen their confidence and eliminate their insecurities.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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So many people on here give bad advice about this. **** tests are based in biology...if the wrong guy gets a girl pregnant, she's stuck with the baby. She has to run **** tests to make sure you are good enough for her and not just trying to **** her brains out, get her pregnant, and move to Mexico. Too many people think you should run **** tests on her which is stupid advice b/c she'll see your low interest and classify you as one of the ****-and-run guys. She gives you **** tests cause if you are willing to cater to her every whim, it means either you are sucking up to her to get laid or you have no backbone and she won't marry you. If you try to give her **** tests, she's not going to put up with it for long. Too many people here think you just reverse women's games and play it on them, but it's not that simple.
 

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The term "**** test" is simply used to describe certain types of behaviors that women "typically" display. It can be complex if you want it to be, or you can see it for what it is and react accordingly. Everyone tests the "limits" of other people in some way, but in this context it refers to male/female relationships and how "women" use it.
 

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The point is, Tazman, that most women don't intentionally give you "sh!t" to test you. If you fall into the trap of thinking everything's a test, you're paranoid and you definitely need psychiatric help.
 

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Tazman said:
I remember this one chick who I just started seeing said "she doesn't call guys".
I had a girl tell me that too.

After she just called me.

Yeah.

And I still never call her. She's coming over during thanksgiving break. Her words: "I want to do anything you want to do baby."

I asked her if her car had a big backseat.

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Demon said:
The point is, Tazman, that most women don't intentionally give you "sh!t" to test you.
Tazman said:
For the most part, they don't do it "conciously"
Demon said:
If you fall into the trap of thinking everything's a test, you're paranoid and you definitely need psychiatric help.
Why assume you'd have to be paranoid to notice when you're being tested? It's really quite easy to recognize. My advice isn't to sit back and analyze every single interaction to determine if and when you're being tested. I don't have that problem because my reaction to it will be the same regardless. I simply don't put up with behavior I don't like or that doesn't make sense, as such with the chick I mentioned who said "she doesn't call guys". I know what she was trying to convey by saying it and my reaction to it (or something similar) will be very different.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Ace of Flames said:
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I remember this one chick who I just started seeing said "she doesn't call guys".


I had a girl tell me that too.

After she just called me.
lol, yeah I was a lot younger when it happened, but I won't put it past older women, they're just more subtle. Older women are much better at the game due to their experience.
 
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