ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Happens all the time in various settings. Anybody have a (moderately?) successful way of dealing with it?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
What vatoloco said.vatoloco said:Smile and say: "Thanks for your time, sweetheart."
Turn around and head the other way.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
^^^ Listen to this man.Iceberg said:What vatoloco said.
If it's a challenge to get her number, just imagine the effort you'll have to put into getting her on a date.
Don't waste your time.
A successful way of dealing with it....as in getting the girl's number?ARrocket said:Happens all the time in various settings. Anybody have a (moderately?) successful way of dealing with it?
If youre getting this regularly is means you are messing up pretty bad earlier during the interaction. Figure out what that is and this problem will start to go away. And stop asking for a number and instead as her what's a good way to keep in touch. You'll stop setting off her "he's just trying to pick me up" red flag.ARrocket said:Happens all the time in various settings. Anybody have a (moderately?) successful way of dealing with it?
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Nutz said:If youre getting this regularly is means you are messing up pretty bad earlier during the interaction. Figure out that is and this problem will start to go away. And stop asking for a number and instead as her what's a good way to keep in touch. You'll stop setting off her "he's just trying to pick me up" red flag.
ARrocket said:Happens all the time in various settings. Anybody have a (moderately?) successful way of dealing with it?
This single line give a logic and emotional answer at the same time, I see the reason while at the same time a deep sense of discomfort came in my mind imagining the situation.Iceberg said:What vatoloco said.
If it's a challenge to get her number, just imagine the effort you'll have to put into getting her on a date.
Don't waste your time.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Smile and tell her to be open-minded. She'll probably have a come-back. Make a game out of it, then tell her if she's going be like that you revoke your offer to hang out, but actually mean it. Leave if you have to. Then forget about her and move on with your life, maybe you'll cross paths again, maybe not, but you'll have a good chance of escalating with her if you do.ARrocket said:Happens all the time in various settings. Anybody have a (moderately?) successful way of dealing with it?
incognito42 said:Why make a tame of it? Why use any of these come back PUA lines you guys are suggesting? To save your ego? She's not interested, don't waste another word or second in front o her. Just walk away
There's nothing neutral about her saying she doesn't give out her number. It's called rejection. I didn't say throw your drink in her face and get angry. just walk off. Is it really "fun" to keep conversating and gaming a chick who has no interest? If I wanna have fun I'll walk up to a new chick or go back to hanging out with my boys. The only thing you're doing if you keep talking (other than coming off as desperate and maybe pathetic) is trying to cushion a possible blow to your ego, or you're completely missing her polite way of seeing "I'm not interested"Chickfight said:Cause it's fun. That's an example of what I might say in that situation. It's all a game after all. The game's over when you decide it's not fun anymore. It doesn't have to end after a girl says "I don't give out my number". It may be time to take a step back, but I don't see how spending any more time with her is waste. It's a lot easier having a good time while doing this stuff. Walking away after she says something so neutral and not even slightly rude just shows how much it effected you. Seriously, you were the one going up to HER, you might as well just say "Gee, I thought it would be a lot easier to bang you than this, maybe the next girl I approach with the same lines will be easier. I'm out"Just comes off as bitter and childish to me and if you ever saw her again she'd see you the same way.
incognito42 said:There's nothing neutral about her saying she doesn't give out her number. It's called rejection. I didn't say throw your drink in her face and get angry. just walk off. Is it really "fun" to keep conversating and gaming a chick who has no interest? If I wanna have fun I'll walk up to a new chick or go back to hanging out with my boys. The only thing you're doing if you keep talking (other than coming off as desperate and maybe pathetic) is trying to cushion a possible blow to your ego, or you're completely missing her polite way of seeing "I'm not interested"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.