"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I can attract women easily but cannot keep them around long term

FlexpertHamilton

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Recently I've realized attracting women and maintaining their interest/respect long term are not complementary, but in fact can work against each other. For instance, the more game you learn, the more it can push them away because they're so jaded from all the "fvckboys" they cannot control, and they hate it when a man has better game than them. Plus, in many ways game can be deceptive, and if your game is more outwardly focused and not internally congruent, after a while they'll see through all your tricks.

I truly believe it is much more valuable to learn how to maintain a womens respect for you than it is to simply attract them. I can speak from experience: women will still be attracted to you and fvck you whenever you want even if they have low respect for you. Attraction isn't really that important, what's important is respect. I would rather have 1 plain looking woman in my life who is loyal, respectful, nurturing, and compliant than a rotation of hot slvts who barely respect me.

Anyway - I've realized that I have had almost no successful relationships and I truly cannot figure out why. I do not feel entitled to anything nor do I expect women to automatically respect and love me. As much as I want to go into "monk mode" and ignore women, I want to capitalize on their increased interest levels lately, so I want to keep trying.

Issue is, I cannot tell if my selection process is poor (eg ignoring red flags) or if there is something I'm consistently doing to turn them away. It's not with every girl mind you, some are very sweet, submissive, and feminine, so it could simply be bad luck and not finding quality women. Either way, I'm quite jaded about it.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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What is your job, hobbies, etc. Are you doing something with your life?
 

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Maybe its not you bro, its them. Most modern girls are just not girlfriend material.

Also, you are the prize, they should be chasing you. No need to worry about keeping girls around if they are always chasing you. Even if you LTR one of them, you cannot let her get too comfortable; even if you gave her exclusivity, she should still be chasing you in a sense.
 

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Recently I've realized attracting women and maintaining their interest/respect long term are not complementary, but in fact can work against each other. For instance, the more game you learn, the more it can push them away because they're so jaded from all the "fvckboys" they cannot control, and they hate it when a man has better game than them. Plus, in many ways game can be deceptive, and if your game is more outwardly focused and not internally congruent, after a while they'll see through all your tricks.

I truly believe it is much more valuable to learn how to maintain a womens respect for you than it is to simply attract them. I can speak from experience: women will still be attracted to you and fvck you whenever you want even if they have low respect for you. Attraction isn't really that important, what's important is respect. I would rather have 1 plain looking woman in my life who is loyal, respectful, nurturing, and compliant than a rotation of hot slvts who barely respect me.
With respect, you are overestimating your game. Bedding women is entry level. If you can’t retain chicks, your game isn’t that tight to begin with

Game really is a function of identifying a woman’s interest, qualifying her, social calibration, and being a challenge. Most guys struggle with the last two. You are likely missing one of these components.
 

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Recently I've realized attracting women and maintaining their interest/respect long term are not complementary [...]
Firstly, you don't control attraction. But, you do control maintenance.

Thus:

With respect, you are overestimating your game. [...]
Maybe check out the Dr Love's dictionary book that more looks at how to keep women?

Otherwise, pretty much what everyone has said.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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out of curiosity how do you attract these women? how do you manage to bed hot women without them respecting you? where do you meet & whats your text game etc
 

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It's your fault 100%. Anyone who tells you otherwise is fooling themselves...

1. Is your body and mind on point? If not, what do you really have to offer? In modern day, you need to be a top tier man to draw and keep top tier women.

2. Are you filtering well enough? The next key stage is filtering your prospects. I don't go on dates with any women. They have to pass through a series of tests. The first is me filtering swipes on a dating app. The second is the conversation on the app, or the first conversation when I approach them. I have a set of criteria that many women will not meet. The second is my text chain after I've gotten their number/IG. The third is the first date. All of these are filters where I separate the wheat from the chaff.

3. Every encounter with her from that point forward, I am looking to disqualify her. And no, it is not over stupid $hit like she was 10 minutes late. I am looking for character flaws (honesty, giver, respect, etc.)

Most men are so desperate, they don't filter well.

I really dont give a flying f--- if it proceeds or not. I have much better $hit to do than waste time on women.

3. How is your d1ck game? Let me tell you, it's probably $hit...

4. Then comes the real work. Women need maintenance to stick around. You have to treat them well, but you also have to keep a strong grasp on point number one!

If you performed the first three steps very well, she will not only fall head over heels for you, but she will do ANYTHING you ask of her.
 

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What is your job, hobbies, etc. Are you doing something with your life?
Don't like disclosing personal info, but I am in fact in a good place in my life, for better or worse.

With respect, you are overestimating your game. Bedding women is entry level. If you can’t retain chicks, your game isn’t that tight to begin with

Game really is a function of identifying a woman’s interest, qualifying her, social calibration, and being a challenge. Most guys struggle with the last two. You are likely missing one of these components.
Probably the bolded. So many complain I'm too "closed off/indifferent" but they're probably complaining about the very thing that attracted them to me in the first place, so idk why I listen to what they say.

out of curiosity how do you attract these women? how do you manage to bed hot women without them respecting you? where do you meet & whats your text game etc
I am fairly good looking and I have it ez on dating apps. Many women are more superficial than you'd think. My **** game is good too.

It's your fault 100%. Anyone who tells you otherwise is fooling themselves...

1. Is your body and mind on point? If not, what do you really have to offer? In modern day, you need to be a top tier man to draw and keep top tier women.

2. Are you filtering well enough? The next key stage is filtering your prospects. I don't go on dates with any women. They have to pass through a series of tests. The first is me filtering swipes on a dating app. The second is the conversation on the app, or the first conversation when I approach them. I have a set of criteria that many women will not meet. The second is my text chain after I've gotten their number/IG. The third is the first date. All of these are filters where I separate the wheat from the chaff.

3. Every encounter with her from that point forward, I am looking to disqualify her. And no, it is not over stupid $hit like she was 10 minutes late. I am looking for character flaws (honesty, giver, respect, etc.)

Most men are so desperate, they don't filter well.

I really dont give a flying f--- if it proceeds or not. I have much better $hit to do than waste time on women.

3. How is your d1ck game? Let me tell you, it's probably $hit...

4. Then comes the real work. Women need maintenance to stick around. You have to treat them well, but you also have to keep a strong grasp on point number one!

If you performed the first three steps very well, she will not only fall head over heels for you, but she will do ANYTHING you ask of her.
1. Yes. I am in the best shape of my life physically, and feel as sharp as ever mentally. I never said I was going after top tier woman btw.

2 No, probably not, I rarely test them either. Solid advice here.

3. I know every guy think he's great. I'm not a sex champion, but most of them certainly seem to enjoy themselves.
 

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Don't like disclosuing personal info, but I am in fact in a good place in my life, for better or worse.


Probably the bolded. So many complain I'm too "closed off/indifferent" but they're probably complaining aboout the very thing that attracted them to me in the first place, so idk why I listen to what they say.


I am fairly good looking and I have it ez on dating apps. Many women are more superficial than you'd think. My **** game is good too.



1. Yes. I am in the best shape of my life physically, and feel as sharp as ever mentally. I never said I was going after top tier woman btw.

2 No, probably not, I rarely test them either. Solid advice here.

3. I know every guy think he's great. I'm not a sex champion, but most of them certainly seem to enjoy themselves.

how hot are these women? 8s+? 5-7s?
 

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how hot are these women? 8s+? 5-7s?
You can message me if you want pics. Almost every girl I've been with in the past year was a 6-8, the most recent was probably a 9 depending who you ask.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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