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Because you are addicted.I don't know why I even bother...
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Because you are addicted.I don't know why I even bother...
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
If I recall, you made a post earlier in the thread telling me there's no way I'm ready for the bar scene in my city if I couldn't even succeed in the open floor setting at the speed dating event.Find another female at a bar on a regular bar night.
If you can't effectively navigate open interaction at a singles events/speed dating, then you're not socially equipped to handle a regular bar night.If I recall, you made a post earlier in the thread telling me there's no way I'm ready for the bar scene in my city if I couldn't even succeed in the open floor setting at the speed dating event.
My social skills are a lot better than they were in high school. Unfortunately, I'm wondering if I've reached the ceiling of how far an autist can ascend (in terms of social skills).If you can't effectively navigate open interaction at a singles events/speed dating, then you're not socially equipped to handle a regular bar night.
Speed dating and singles events are dog crap quality.
You will need to enhance social skills before then.
You won't need as much in the way of social skills if you are fit/muscular. Attraction and seduction is the combination of looks, money, status, and personality. Looks and money are most important but personality counts for something.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Also, I should ask: What would you do in an environment where, other than an obese chick, every woman is already engaged in a discussion with another guy?If you can't effectively navigate open interaction at a singles events/speed dating, then you're not socially equipped to handle a regular bar night.
Speed dating and singles events are dog crap quality.
You will need to enhance social skills before then.
You won't need as much in the way of social skills if you are fit/muscular. Attraction and seduction is the combination of looks, money, status, and personality. Looks and money are most important but personality counts for something.
Go to an environment where this isn't the case. You wouldn't continue dear hunting in Downtown Chicago, after discovering that the only thing there in need of picking off were the dope fiends who litter The Windy City's street cornersAlso, I should ask: What would you do in an environment where, other than an obese chick, every woman is already engaged in a discussion with another guy?
You mentioned that you have wealthy parents. Have they tried to set you up with someone before?Also, I should ask: What would you do in an environment where, other than an obese chick, every woman is already engaged in a discussion with another guy?
(Even though that's the description of the open session of my speed dating event, I imagine a lot of bar settings come with similar scenarios)
Get yourself an ankh, sharpen the edges, and develop an acute case of Renfield's SyndromeIf I recall, you made a post earlier in the thread telling me there's no way I'm ready for the bar scene in my city if I couldn't even succeed in the open floor setting at the speed dating event
Here's the difference: No one expects deer to be in downtown Chicago. You expect there to be available broads at a bar/speed dating event.Go to an environment where this isn't the case. You wouldn't continue dear hunting in Downtown Chicago, after discovering that the only thing there in need of picking off were the dope fiends who litter The Windy City's street corners
Same is true when it comes to not only dating and mating, but everything else in life. Don't like the increasingly non-existent job market in Akron? Move to Tampa, where new tech companies are popping up faster than penises each time Sydney Sweeney slips into a string bikini, and film production is burgeoning now that folks are finally realizing what a shi-hole GA is. Accept that proceeds of your move will come with a few piss-ups, such as having to contend with the occasional hurricane
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Not really. Even as old as I am now, they don't really like the idea of me dating.You mentioned that you have wealthy parents. Have they tried to set you up with someone before?
That was the most common strategy that men used in the 1970s-2000s when they lacked social circle options. While men are going to bars less in search of pussie now than in the past, many men are still using bars as a part of their efforts.men should use the following strategy:
1. Go to a bar.
2. If the gender ratio turns out to suck, go to another bar.
3. And if the gender ratio at the next bar turns out to suck? Find yet another bar.
Back in your days of frequenting bars (I get the impression you don't do that a whole lot anymore), how common was it for you to jump from bar to bar to bar (in the same night) in search of a better gender ratio?That was the most common strategy that men used in the 1970s-2000s when they lacked social circle options. While men are going to bars less in search of pussie now than in the past, many men are still using bars as a part of their efforts.
More men seem to be preferring the use of swipe apps and sending DMs on social media platforms as compared to bar approaching.
Non-bar approaching doesn't seem to be increasing in popularity.
It was common for me to do that. I did go out to bar areas in the cities where I lived where there were multiple bars in a compact area.Back in your days of frequenting bars (I get the impression you don't do that a whole lot anymore), how common was it for you to jump from bar to bar to bar (in the same night) in search of a better gender ratio?
If, even for you (being a mere introvert), bar approaching isn't suited to your personality, bar approaching certainly isn't suited to an autist like me.It was common for me to do that. I did go out to bar areas in the cities where I lived where there were multiple bars in a compact area.
As an adult, I was a primarily nightlife guy from ages 18-29 when I was single during those times. That was a combination of going to random off campus parties (ages 18-20) and then bars once I turned 21.
In my late 20s, I began the transition to becoming a primarily non-bar approacher (daygame). I have a more introverted personality and non-bar approaching is better for my personality type than bar approaching.
I spent 10+ years primarily doing a form of game that wasn't best suited for my personality type.
The best bar approachers are men with more outgoing and more extroverted personalities. Introverts with a good physique can do well in bar approaching. Looks > Personality.
Speed dating and singles events were originally conceived as gimmicks to help those who weren't good at bar approaching.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Ok.If, even for you (being a mere introvert), bar approaching isn't suited to your personality, bar approaching certainly isn't suited to an autist like me.
Repeat that to yourself a few million more times, and you may finally start believing itAnd no, I'm not gay
Very funny.Repeat that to yourself a few million more times, and you may finally start believing it
Another thing you likely lack is male friends. It's difficult to go out to bars alone and do approaches. Therefore, having male friends/wingmen for going out to bars is valuable.If, even for you (being a mere introvert), bar approaching isn't suited to your personality, bar approaching certainly isn't suited to an autist like me.
Yeah. Unless you're at, say, a hotel bar in an unfamiliar locale (in which case, it's to be expected a lot of travellers, both male and female, will be by themselves), I imagine being alone makes it a lot more difficult.Another thing you likely lack is male friends. It's difficult to go out to bars alone and do approaches. Therefore, having male friends/wingmen for going out to bars is valuable.
Most men in their 30s/40s lack male friends/wingmen for going to bars regularly. This is because most men in their 30s/40s are married/in LTRs. These men often have kids. They aren't going to accompany an unattached friend to the bars.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.