"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I ask girl for email she asks...
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MilanoRedDC5
Don Juan
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
""She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Godless Heretic
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"Whoa, thanks for disqualifying yourself by being snotty and arrogant. Have a nice day!"
and turn around and walk away. IF she's a decent person and was just busy / tired of getting hit on / having her B1tch Shield on, she might just reinitiate conversation. And if she doesn't I wouldn't want her anyway.
But that's just me, your mileage may vary!
Godless Heretic
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Maybe David DeAngelo is right and we should have stuff like that mentally rehearsed for common "Fark off, you loser!" lines women hurl at us.
Even though it sounds dorky
This is great; i cant improve upon it. I much prefer upping the ****iness level to you instead of a more reactive response (that disempowers you IMO) like godless listed.Francisco d'Anconia said:"Because we both know that you want to.
Reestablishing and maintaining your self-respect is priority #1. Getting the girl too is merely ancillary.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
I'd go with thisone.John_Galt said:
VAC=Attraction => Value, Attainability, Compliance... I'm guessing with this situation, you have plenty of attainability but no value nor do you have compliance.
If the woman's interested in you ie. there's attraction of some sorts, you wouldn't be getting this test.
Although, you can turn attraction around based on the response you give to this question... Milano and Francisco's replies are gold indeed.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Very good point!azanon said:
Keeping a good balance between ****iness, humor and confidence directed at the other person rather than a reactive response helps you in not mistakenly saying something that is condescending. This is the problem that guys have when they come off as *******s instead of being ****y or funny.musclyjerk
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Think about it. By the way, was she being a cow or just being a little playful?
The Muscly Jerk
I have to disagree.musclyjerk said:
He asked for a way to contact her but never revealed his true intentions. She replied with a very playful sh1t test which means she was interested. If he had asked for her phone number he would probably get the same question. It seems that she was interested in him from the begining so it doesn't matter if its her email or phone number that he gets. He could always ask for her phone number later through the email.
Getting the contact method is not as important as what you do with it.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.