"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I approached a HB 10-much calmer approach and better

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I saw this stunning English smartly dressed women who is in her early to mid 20s.

I just saw two guys approach her before me and she walked off saying something, so definitely a 10/10.

I decided to approach.

I socialised before hand, I was much much more calmer and animated.

I approached from the side, tapped her on the shoulder

Then faced her, I calmly approached and said "hey, I just saw you and just had to say hello to you".

She walked off, politely saying "hello", she didn't blow me out, politely said it and politely walked away.

Much much better, the key is the calmness and conviction in the approach, communication.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Approach her from the front and don't touch her.


You should really work on how to open a conversation, because this one is lame af.

Also, don't put stupid ratings ('HB10') in the title of your thread. Just say 'attractive woman' because your relative ratings are basically useless for reference unless you post a photo of the tart you're approaching and that would be inadvisable.
Thank you for the insights bud.
 

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That's creepy and demeaning AF.
Would you do the same with a smartly dressed man, expecting him to give you some change?
Because basically that's what you're doing ... begging girls for their attention. o_O
 

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OK, that's great...next step is now the better approaches need to start leading to better results.

If the results aren't improving, then it's not really any better.
 

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Hi Stephen,
In this Country and I suspect England too,you can't even hold eye contact without the risk of her shouting harrassment to the Gendarmes....To touch a Woman is Assault,you could be before a Magistrate!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Why not just initiate a convo…. When I found this site in the early 2000’s I would go out and just talk to humans…. Walking up and sheepishly saying hi…. And watching her walk away really does nothing. If you engage in conversation for however brief I think you will get much comfortable faster.
 

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Problem with beautiful women is that they expect men to be a certain way around them

saying things like " I had too talk to you " instantly categorises you as low value and from there , there is virtually no coming back

If I had seen two guys previously approach her I would just walk over and say something like

"hey what did say too scare those 2 poor boys away"

She Will likely find it amusing but more importantly you've broken the ice without being submissive or weird
 

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Hi Stephen,
Unless you are at least an eight yourself and of a similar social class what is the point of approaching such a classy Woman?....If you are an eight why do you need to?
 

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This is a lousy approach from a technique standpoint. If you plan to approach someone, add value. If you opened with a meaningful insight about her, you could have sparked a meaningful interaction ending with a date offer.

At the very least, a good opener could have gotten you a 15-60 second interaction (not long enough to offer a date) but still better than a 1-2 second interaction.
 

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Hi Stephen,
Unless you are at least an eight yourself and of a similar social class what is the point of approaching such a classy Woman?....If you are an eight why do you need to?
I'm definitely an 8. I have quiet a lot going for me. I work out, groom myself well, have a standard height, wear nice, trendy clothes.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hi Stephen,
So why do you need to cold approach?....Believe me gaining the attention of a Woman at a higher metier than yourself is one of lifes greatest follies.
 

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NPD much?
 

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Hi Stephen,
So why do you need to cold approach?....Believe me gaining the attention of a Woman at a higher metier than yourself is one of lifes greatest follies.
I did say I'm an 8, however with everything else, I'd say I'm 8.5.

I did get some eye context from other younger women that day, which I hesitated opening up a conversation.
 

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I did see a few 7s go with a 9 women that day. Maybe they had a bit of alpha about them.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I did see a few 7s go with a 9 women that day. Maybe they had a bit of alpha about them.
Stephen, you’ve been on this forum since 2016 and are still doing beginner “bootcamp” trainings ???

It’s been 8 years you shouldn’t be using a number rating system at all, for yourself or them.

If you’re looking at becoming a better conversationalist then this is not the correct way of going about it.

What are you looking to achieve here ?? Just sex with plenty of beautiful women or something more ?? What is your purpose ??
 

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I saw this stunning English smartly dressed women who is in her early to mid 20s.

I just saw two guys approach her before me and she walked off saying something, so definitely a 10/10.

I decided to approach.

I socialised before hand, I was much much more calmer and animated.

I approached from the side, tapped her on the shoulder

Then faced her, I calmly approached and said "hey, I just saw you and just had to say hello to you".

She walked off, politely saying "hello", she didn't blow me out, politely said it and politely walked away.

Much much better, the key is the calmness and conviction in the approach, communication.
I'd of said...statistics say for every 3 guys that approaches a girl, the first two get rejected and the 3rd one gets her number! Say it in a clever/funny tone and she will smile. Introduce yourself, ask her name and expand on that topic or start another one.

If its intimidating to strike up conversations with women, then go sit at your local bar, have a few drinks, and talk to anybody and everybody. Get creative. Spend sometime before you go thinking up interesting things.

Perhaps observe others and learn from them first.
 

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I saw this stunning English smartly dressed women who is in her early to mid 20s.

I just saw two guys approach her before me and she walked off saying something, so definitely a 10/10.

I decided to approach.

I socialised before hand, I was much much more calmer and animated.

I approached from the side, tapped her on the shoulder

Then faced her, I calmly approached and said "hey, I just saw you and just had to say hello to you".

She walked off, politely saying "hello", she didn't blow me out, politely said it and politely walked away.

Much much better, the key is the calmness and conviction in the approach, communication.
Well, I guess it's better then saying, Hello, are you tired? She'll say why? You respond, because you've been running around and around in my head.
 

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Well, I guess it's better then saying, Hello, are you tired? She'll say why? You respond, because you've been running around and around in my head.
And then she will say...

"Is your refrigerator running?"

And he'll say "Yeah..."

And then she'll say "Well you better go catch it and stop chasing after me..."
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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