"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I always initiate and she always accepts

JonnyD123

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Hey what's up fellas.

Lately I've been periodically seeing this girl that lives pretty far away. We hang out maybe once or twice a month. I've kept my cool, never invested too much, been seeing other girls in the meantime as well. I just noticed that every time we hang out I do the initiating, but yet she never turns me down. When we're together I make sure to hit it good, we both know that it's nothing more than fwb.

I've never been one to fix something that isn't broken, but is my luck destined to run out if I continue the initiating? Been this way for about 3-4 months now. Thanks for reading.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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G_Govan

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If she's complying I don't see the issue. This is ideal for FWB.

Sounds like you may be more into her than vice versa. Especially when you say things like this:
JonnyD123 said:
I've never been one to fix something that isn't broken, but is my luck destined to run out if I continue the initiating?
This always happens in FWB situations, only it's worse when it's YOU that cares too much.
 

KingBeef

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JoesphBrown said:
First off atta boy good job

Second off you're creating a problem when one doesn't exist
Just like the someone said earlier, "if it ain't broken don't fix it." She's just a fwb. Keep your frame. If you want more than that, then it's something different....
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Turuwal

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JonnyD123 said:
is my luck destined to run out if I continue the initiating?
No. Here's why.

Let's say you initiate one time and let's say she says "no I already have plans". You respond "no worries" and leave it at that. Eventually the little timer in her head will go off with you not having contacted her for a while and she will relieve the anxiety that this causes her by getting in contact with you. Then you play as per normal.
 
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Turuwal said:
No. Here's why.

Let's say you initiate one time and let's say she says "no I already have plans". You respond "no worries" and leave it at that. Eventually the little timer in her head will go off with you not having contacted her for a while and she will relieve the anxiety that this causes her by getting in contact with you. Then you play as per normal.
Seems like she gets the attention she needs from you by allowing the initiation to occur. I would keep it going. It's working. Keep your verbal communications minimized and you have nothing to argue about.
 
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