Doctor Europeo
Moderator
You are no spring chicken but you can still do better than her.I understand and I’m not in disagreement.
39 years old and not getting younger, I’m not a spring chicken anymore.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You are no spring chicken but you can still do better than her.I understand and I’m not in disagreement.
39 years old and not getting younger, I’m not a spring chicken anymore.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
She should accept she doesnt deserves exclusivity but women cant wrap their head around that.one thing I am holding out for and yet to see is any comments on actions she should be taking. Maybe I am off the mark in this thinking.
All said I agree with a lot of what you are saying. She comes out here all the time and she is doing it at bad hours sometimes on public transit most of the time. Would you find her text message a little long in the tooth? Isn’t the rule of thumb essentially, the longer the explanation the more bs?I probably would wait on the move in but honestly this woman is starting to win me over.
There are very very very few women you will ever meet who are going to love you as much as this woman obviously does. That has to count for something.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I’m a bit inclined to agree with you. Look at the first paragraph which seems natural, it was written quickly, easily and properly punctuated about the bar.Firstly @Divorced w 3 based on her actions throughout, you DO have reason to mistrust her imo. Very much so.
And as such, I find her response suspect and may actually prove the opposite of what she's attempting to prove, if that makes sense.
It was overkill, too over the top and overly defensive. Again, a truly innocent person does respond that way imo.
They'd be more inclined to be hurt and angry at YOU for not trusting them, I know I would be if roles were reversed.
Also, the comment she made as you were kicking her out about how her lack of presence in your kids lives would hurt them, I find highly manipulative.
Using her relationship with YOUR kids to somehow hold you. It was extremely manipulative imo, guilt-trippy, and wrong.
Yeah, she would have been better off leaving the second paragraph out altogether. Assuming she was innocent of any wrongdoing.I’m a bit inclined to agree with you. Look at the first paragraph which seems natural, it was written quickly, easily and properly punctuated about the bar.
look at the second. It’s choppy, it’s obviously edited and put together. It wasn’t off the top of her head, it was thought through and recomposed. She ‘finally remembered?’
Not yetYeah, she would have been better off leaving the second paragraph out altogether. Assuming she was innocent of any wrongdoing.
The energy of that paragraph screams she was hiding something and attempting to cover her tracks.
The first and third paragraphs were fine.
Have you responded?
Perhaps, but you've put in her in a situation where your own insecurities have become her problem. That's not right.All said I agree with a lot of what you are saying. She comes out here all the time and she is doing it at bad hours sometimes on public transit most of the time. Would you find her text message a little long in the tooth? Isn’t the rule of thumb essentially, the longer the explanation the more bs?
I’m tempted to invite her out and chat. She’s going to find out I burned 125k in litigation last year and that I am keeping my head down and my bottom line lean. I’d be telling her straight up that last year was an anomaly, if she wants to be part of it she’s welcome to. I’ll say this all nicely of course.Perhaps, but you've put in her in a situation where your own insecurities have become her problem. That's not right.
Those are you for you to deal with, not try and dump on her and have her explain and fix.
To some degree, not sure how much exactly, you've created a problem that didn't exist and then demanded she fix it.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Could you also add that you would like her to? Be part of it? Or is that assumed by your comment she's "welcome to"?I’m tempted to invite her out and chat. She’s going to find out I burned 125k in litigation last year and that I am keeping my head down and my bottom line lean. I’d be telling her straight up that last year was an anomaly, if she wants to be part of it she’s welcome to. I’ll say this all nicely of course.
Nice post. I may wait another day though and see if I can smoke out anything else with a little space. I think I have my thought process in line as to what I would need on the relationship, parameters etc.Could you also add that you would like her to? Be part of it? Or is that assumed by you're comment she's "welcome to"?
Just trying to see it from a female perspective.
In any event, you know she will, it's clear that no matter what her behavior last year, and yours, she's in love with you.
To add, you just got out of a toxic marriage at least during the latter years, she hasn't been in a relationship in four years, as such you're both new to the "relationship" arena and attempting to figure it all out.
It's natural for there to be some miscommunication, misunderstandings, push/pull as you become closer, feelings intensify and you navigate your way towards commitment.
Take these words to heart by George Harrison.
Isn't it a pity
Now, isn't it a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Idk string likes that guy a lotWhy make this so complicated?
There ya go, lol and I told you this several pages back. Self awarenessWhy do I get this feeling that my insecurities took a mole hill and turned it into a mountain? Not to discredit legitimate observations over the course of the relationship but the way I went about a bunch of them, I’m just reading some reputable stuff online and man, kind of hitting. Instead of bringing her back on new years I should have just sat quietly for a bit and worked on this.
Don't agree on an open phone policy. My gf deleted snapchat and insta when we first got together and she told me her phone pin, i did'nt ask for it. However, i will not give her my pin. My text conversation with family and friends are PRIVATE. If i was messaging my mother, brother or siser ,,it's for their eyes only (no joke intended) i would expect the same in return.That’s a big deal IMHO if she actually sticks to that commitment. I’d make sure to hold her accountable on that and check in on it regularly. I’m not going to lie that in my next relationship I’m going to request an open phone policy. Look at my phone any time you want. That means I can see yours. No secret worlds hidden in layers…some might say this is controlling, but in this day and age I’m not so sure anymore.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.