"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hypothetical Scenario

Darth

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-You hit on the girl of your dreams over Facebook (because that's the only way you can)
-You ask for the phone number
-She resists
-You trash her boyfriend, call him a bastard, and say that you're much better than him
-She says you made her uncomfortable and then blocks you
-Boyfriend sends you a threatening message and then blocks you

Objective: Turn this into a win.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Eph

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What the fvck did you do?! Honestly, I'd say there's no coming back from this. You may want to be careful too. The boyfriend probably won't cause any trouble since he's just trying to intimidate you, but the girl could call the cops on harassment claims.
 

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In this hypothetical scenario, the girl and her boyfriend are both in a completely separate part of the country.
 

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You can't win , you messed up bad talking her bf/ex. If you were better , she should be the one to see it ..you can't force feed it to her. Just block/delete and forget it happened.
 

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Darth said:
-You hit on the girl of your dreams over Facebook (because that's the only way you can)
-You ask for the phone number
-She resists
-You trash her boyfriend, call him a bastard, and say that you're much better than him
-She says you made her uncomfortable and then blocks you
-Boyfriend sends you a threatening message and then blocks you

Objective: Turn this into a win.
This is totally hilarious....

Okay... how to make this a win....... close your Facebook account.

NEVER ever again trash an ex-boyfriend. When you trash an ex or current BF you are directly attacking the woman's judgement. You might as well just call her a stupid cvnt b!tch.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Peaks&Valleys

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Darth said:
Objective: Turn this into a win.
Only way you can turn this into a win is to REALIZE that you should never do that again.

Agreed with what's been said here. You NEVER talk $hit about their current or past bf's, for many reasons. That's a chump beta orbiter move.
 

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Darth said:
-You hit on the girl of your dreams over Facebook (because that's the only way you can)
-You ask for the phone number
-She resists
-You trash her boyfriend, call him a bastard, and say that you're much better than him
LOL. :crackup: That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Come on bro, what did you expect her to say?

"Hi Rebecca, I've been thinking about you night and day. You are my angel, my one and only. I think I'm in love with you. Can I get your phone number?"
"I don't think that's such a good idea, I have a boyfriend"
"Your boyfriend is a piece a crap. He is a stupid bastard and I'm much better man than he will ever be."
"Oh yeah you're right. How could I been so blind and not realize he was such a jerk? How could I have not given to my basic instincts and go out with you? In fact, lets skip the chit chat and have sex at your house in 2 hours. Be ready I'm going to rock your world."

Honestly, how do you guys survive out there in real world?
 

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