"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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how'd this convo go and how about this C&F comment?

solo1

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Anyway there's this girl that lately i've been trying to game. i have 2 classes with her and dont get much of a chance except during breaks or after class.

Anyway today in class:

me: Hey jane how was your weekend, you got egged?
her: egged? (she's a foreign student)
me: yea
her: oh egg noo (smiling)
me: did you go out?
her: yea i went as star wars girl
me: ah sweet
her: (using her hand to outline where her outfit was showing skin)
me: So where'd you go?
her: a bar
me: wait, star wars girl who?(confused not sure which star wars girl..so many)
her: star wars girl.
me: uh..yea, so you got any pics?
her: yea i do
me: thats great, i'd love to see em (in a confident, caring, non-aggressive tone)
her: (smiled and nodded)
well if she remembers, then she'll bring the pics tomorrow, if not oh well.

Anyway thats all the time i had with her to talk.
Afterwards I was thinking of busting her with saying "stayed out all night trick-or-treating iddnt you? Look your teeth's already rotting from all the candy."
But after thinking about it, she might take it as an insult as her 2 front fang teeths are slightly bulging out. i thought it was a good comment. But guess ill have to use something else tomorrow.
Aside from her teeth, she's a solid 8.

What do you guys think about the convo and the c&f comment above?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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doctoroxygen

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That comment is definitely not something you should say, regardless of whether or not her teeth bulge. It's neither ****y nor funny. It's just weird.

The conversation was fine though. I didn't see anywhere where you were building attraction. Ask fewer questions, tell more stories, say something funny.
 

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I think that she could get genuinely hurt by that neg hit that you're proposing. That isn't what you want. Think about it - if she blantently insulted one of your features that you dislike you wouldn't then want to fvck her.

You could have teased her about liking Star Wars or something, that might have been better. It is pretty geeky, after all. Or perhaps where she's from - I've found that I've managed to find a stereotype from pretty much every part of the country that you can play with.

I blew my chances with a girl the other day because I insulted rather than negged. Be careful.
 

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Originally posted by aftershock
I think that she could get genuinely hurt by that neg hit that you're proposing. That isn't what you want. Think about it - if she blantently insulted one of your features that you dislike you wouldn't then want to fvck her.

You could have teased her about liking Star Wars or something, that might have been better. It is pretty geeky, after all. Or perhaps where she's from - I've found that I've managed to find a stereotype from pretty much every part of the country that you can play with.

I blew my chances with a girl the other day because I insulted rather than negged. Be careful.
You guys are right...neg hits & c&f can get really confusing at times. Gotta be careful to find the thin line between insult and funny.

Bah personally it's not easy being funny with someone who doesnt have english as their first language...kinda like that egg joke, took her awhile to get it.

Some examples of neg hits and C&F would be nice if you guys dont mind, show me the 2 ways of stating a similar idea in neg hit and c&f form
 

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In my experience, C&F is waaaay easier on non-native English speakers, since you don't actually have to be that funny. The key with non-natives is to exaggerate the humorous mannerisms you have in English; what's funny to them is your tonality and body language, rather than what you say.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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solo1

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Originally posted by doctoroxygen
In my experience, C&F is waaaay easier on non-native English speakers, since you don't actually have to be that funny. The key with non-natives is to exaggerate the humorous mannerisms you have in English; what's funny to them is your tonality and body language, rather than what you say.
I agree, any time i talk to her, it's been rather easy to make her smile and laugh. And i didnt have to try at all...
I also agree about the tonality and body language. but a lot of times because of this i have no clue what to talk about.

Well wish me luck im gonna # close tomorrow...
 
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