"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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how'd this convo go and how about this C&F comment?

solo1

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Anyway there's this girl that lately i've been trying to game. i have 2 classes with her and dont get much of a chance except during breaks or after class.

Anyway today in class:

me: Hey jane how was your weekend, you got egged?
her: egged? (she's a foreign student)
me: yea
her: oh egg noo (smiling)
me: did you go out?
her: yea i went as star wars girl
me: ah sweet
her: (using her hand to outline where her outfit was showing skin)
me: So where'd you go?
her: a bar
me: wait, star wars girl who?(confused not sure which star wars girl..so many)
her: star wars girl.
me: uh..yea, so you got any pics?
her: yea i do
me: thats great, i'd love to see em (in a confident, caring, non-aggressive tone)
her: (smiled and nodded)
well if she remembers, then she'll bring the pics tomorrow, if not oh well.

Anyway thats all the time i had with her to talk.
Afterwards I was thinking of busting her with saying "stayed out all night trick-or-treating iddnt you? Look your teeth's already rotting from all the candy."
But after thinking about it, she might take it as an insult as her 2 front fang teeths are slightly bulging out. i thought it was a good comment. But guess ill have to use something else tomorrow.
Aside from her teeth, she's a solid 8.

What do you guys think about the convo and the c&f comment above?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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doctoroxygen

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That comment is definitely not something you should say, regardless of whether or not her teeth bulge. It's neither ****y nor funny. It's just weird.

The conversation was fine though. I didn't see anywhere where you were building attraction. Ask fewer questions, tell more stories, say something funny.
 

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I think that she could get genuinely hurt by that neg hit that you're proposing. That isn't what you want. Think about it - if she blantently insulted one of your features that you dislike you wouldn't then want to fvck her.

You could have teased her about liking Star Wars or something, that might have been better. It is pretty geeky, after all. Or perhaps where she's from - I've found that I've managed to find a stereotype from pretty much every part of the country that you can play with.

I blew my chances with a girl the other day because I insulted rather than negged. Be careful.
 

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Originally posted by aftershock
I think that she could get genuinely hurt by that neg hit that you're proposing. That isn't what you want. Think about it - if she blantently insulted one of your features that you dislike you wouldn't then want to fvck her.

You could have teased her about liking Star Wars or something, that might have been better. It is pretty geeky, after all. Or perhaps where she's from - I've found that I've managed to find a stereotype from pretty much every part of the country that you can play with.

I blew my chances with a girl the other day because I insulted rather than negged. Be careful.
You guys are right...neg hits & c&f can get really confusing at times. Gotta be careful to find the thin line between insult and funny.

Bah personally it's not easy being funny with someone who doesnt have english as their first language...kinda like that egg joke, took her awhile to get it.

Some examples of neg hits and C&F would be nice if you guys dont mind, show me the 2 ways of stating a similar idea in neg hit and c&f form
 

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In my experience, C&F is waaaay easier on non-native English speakers, since you don't actually have to be that funny. The key with non-natives is to exaggerate the humorous mannerisms you have in English; what's funny to them is your tonality and body language, rather than what you say.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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solo1

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Originally posted by doctoroxygen
In my experience, C&F is waaaay easier on non-native English speakers, since you don't actually have to be that funny. The key with non-natives is to exaggerate the humorous mannerisms you have in English; what's funny to them is your tonality and body language, rather than what you say.
I agree, any time i talk to her, it's been rather easy to make her smile and laugh. And i didnt have to try at all...
I also agree about the tonality and body language. but a lot of times because of this i have no clue what to talk about.

Well wish me luck im gonna # close tomorrow...
 
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