"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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how'd this convo go and how about this C&F comment?

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Anyway there's this girl that lately i've been trying to game. i have 2 classes with her and dont get much of a chance except during breaks or after class.

Anyway today in class:

me: Hey jane how was your weekend, you got egged?
her: egged? (she's a foreign student)
me: yea
her: oh egg noo (smiling)
me: did you go out?
her: yea i went as star wars girl
me: ah sweet
her: (using her hand to outline where her outfit was showing skin)
me: So where'd you go?
her: a bar
me: wait, star wars girl who?(confused not sure which star wars girl..so many)
her: star wars girl.
me: uh..yea, so you got any pics?
her: yea i do
me: thats great, i'd love to see em (in a confident, caring, non-aggressive tone)
her: (smiled and nodded)
well if she remembers, then she'll bring the pics tomorrow, if not oh well.

Anyway thats all the time i had with her to talk.
Afterwards I was thinking of busting her with saying "stayed out all night trick-or-treating iddnt you? Look your teeth's already rotting from all the candy."
But after thinking about it, she might take it as an insult as her 2 front fang teeths are slightly bulging out. i thought it was a good comment. But guess ill have to use something else tomorrow.
Aside from her teeth, she's a solid 8.

What do you guys think about the convo and the c&f comment above?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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That comment is definitely not something you should say, regardless of whether or not her teeth bulge. It's neither ****y nor funny. It's just weird.

The conversation was fine though. I didn't see anywhere where you were building attraction. Ask fewer questions, tell more stories, say something funny.
 
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I think that she could get genuinely hurt by that neg hit that you're proposing. That isn't what you want. Think about it - if she blantently insulted one of your features that you dislike you wouldn't then want to fvck her.

You could have teased her about liking Star Wars or something, that might have been better. It is pretty geeky, after all. Or perhaps where she's from - I've found that I've managed to find a stereotype from pretty much every part of the country that you can play with.

I blew my chances with a girl the other day because I insulted rather than negged. Be careful.
 
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Originally posted by aftershock
I think that she could get genuinely hurt by that neg hit that you're proposing. That isn't what you want. Think about it - if she blantently insulted one of your features that you dislike you wouldn't then want to fvck her.

You could have teased her about liking Star Wars or something, that might have been better. It is pretty geeky, after all. Or perhaps where she's from - I've found that I've managed to find a stereotype from pretty much every part of the country that you can play with.

I blew my chances with a girl the other day because I insulted rather than negged. Be careful.
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You guys are right...neg hits & c&f can get really confusing at times. Gotta be careful to find the thin line between insult and funny.

Bah personally it's not easy being funny with someone who doesnt have english as their first language...kinda like that egg joke, took her awhile to get it.

Some examples of neg hits and C&F would be nice if you guys dont mind, show me the 2 ways of stating a similar idea in neg hit and c&f form
 
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In my experience, C&F is waaaay easier on non-native English speakers, since you don't actually have to be that funny. The key with non-natives is to exaggerate the humorous mannerisms you have in English; what's funny to them is your tonality and body language, rather than what you say.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by doctoroxygen
In my experience, C&F is waaaay easier on non-native English speakers, since you don't actually have to be that funny. The key with non-natives is to exaggerate the humorous mannerisms you have in English; what's funny to them is your tonality and body language, rather than what you say.
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I agree, any time i talk to her, it's been rather easy to make her smile and laugh. And i didnt have to try at all...
I also agree about the tonality and body language. but a lot of times because of this i have no clue what to talk about.

Well wish me luck im gonna # close tomorrow...
 
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