i know we are, but its a sad state of affairs when telling someone you like them will result in them losing interest
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How would you guys handle this text?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
AureliusMaximus
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After just meeting a few times and saying something like that; it is like a red flag on a communist parade...
Too many of them lol.
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In this situation I don't think so at all. The mistake is when a guy is overinvested when she is not and start saying all this stuff that she's not feeling. In this situation she's feeling it and reciprocating it would be positively received.
Context matters. In a different context I would agree with you, but not this one.
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An ambiguous answer is all you need.
I respectfully disagree, Me nor anyone I know, has never had a good experience from telling a woman anything. in under 3 months
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Keep the momentum going!!!
She said the “L” word because she wants to see your level of commitment.
You do not have to say it back, but you should do something to show your level of commitment now!
If I were in your situation, I would seriously go Tiffany’s and get her some earrings at the very low end price point.
Surprise her with that gift then the momentum keeps going and you do not have to say the “L” word.
Women are very perceptive. Show too many signs of pulling back your commitment level and it is game over. The emotional connection she has to you is lost forever.
The “L” word is a giant test. If you want her, do not fail it.
She said the “L” word because she wants to see your level of commitment.
You do not have to say it back, but you should do something to show your level of commitment now!
If I were in your situation, I would seriously go Tiffany’s and get her some earrings at the very low end price point.
Surprise her with that gift then the momentum keeps going and you do not have to say the “L” word.
Women are very perceptive. Show too many signs of pulling back your commitment level and it is game over. The emotional connection she has to you is lost forever.
The “L” word is a giant test. If you want her, do not fail it.
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To me, love is a measurement of convenience; we have desire for those who are going to make our lives more convenient. Declarations of Love to me means that the convenience you provide is on another level, but it's not enough.
All you can do is avoid filling their heads with bull**** and be honest
All you can do is avoid filling their heads with bull**** and be honest
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I once dated a girl that told me all the time she loved me. Never once did I tell her. My reply was "you're a sweetie" or some **** like that. I wasn't looking to fall in love. I just wanted fun times and a hot girl.
My response never caused any issues in the 2yrs we were together. She did voice her displeasure to others, but never me. Stay true to yourself and if they have a problem with it then so be it. There are always more out there.
My response never caused any issues in the 2yrs we were together. She did voice her displeasure to others, but never me. Stay true to yourself and if they have a problem with it then so be it. There are always more out there.