Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
This...bigneil said:This is a false assumption. Women (after they are dumped) will say the guy treated them like trash, but only in past tense. They don't seek guys who treat them like trash in real time. Any time I tried to be an as-shole I succeeded, and not in a good way.
The understanding is wrong.Thechamp said:How to treat women like trash be honest the hottest women Go with men that treat them like trash , the qestion is how !!
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Alpha is a relative term, and Alpha's never directly call another person a Beta. That is implied by his presence in the room (there can be no Internet Alpha per se). Indeed, only a Beta intentionally seeks to mistreat women (his pain stems from his failures).JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
bigneil said:Good points Stevo and RangerMike.
Welcome to the red zone Kevin.
Alpha is a relative term, and Alpha's never directly call another person a Beta. That is implied by his presence in the room (there can be no Internet Alpha per se). Indeed, only a Beta intentionally seeks to mistreat women (his pain stems from his failures).
Spitefulness = weakness.
A true Alpha has so many women throwing themselves at him that he doesn't have time to be mean, he just finds someone else to treat right. An alpha is overflowing with generosity because the world rewards him for it. That said, when a woman mistreats him, he puts her in her place (often the trash barrel as he discards her), but normally he chooses to ignore bad behavior and reward good behavior.
Low quality women like to be treated like trash. Fake alphas who act like d1cks to everyone are really betas.JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
So a Marine Drill Sergent is a "beta"? There are some roles and positions an Alpha will find himself in, where he is not very giving, not generous and issuing orders and forcing compliance.Peña said:Low quality women like to be treated like trash. Fake alphas who act like d1cks to everyone are really betas.
A sergent is absolutely Beta. He reports to staff sergeant, who reports to first sergent, who reports to sergent major, who reports to the General, who reports to the President, who reports to the Central bank, who reports to the shareholders, who report to the Board of Directors, who report to the Secret Government, who report to Satan.DaddyLongShanks said:So a Marine Drill Sergent is a "beta"? There are some roles and positions an Alpha will find himself in, where he is not very giving, not generous and issuing orders and forcing compliance.
This. If you are an alpha man, you can get away with anything with a woman. You can be a murdering psychopath and she will still kiss the ground you walk on.JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
It is easy to shout orders to others and make them do things when you are above them in ranking. Anybody can do that. Your job does not make you an alpha or a beta. It is how you are all around is what makes you an alpha or a beta. That drill sergeant could act like a beta around women when he is not giving orders. He could act like a beta to his superior officers who gives him orders. His beta behavior away from his job does not make him an alpha.DaddyLongShanks said:So a Marine Drill Sergent is a "beta"? There are some roles and positions an Alpha will find himself in, where he is not very giving, not generous and issuing orders and forcing compliance.
You could treat a woman indifferently as an alpha male and it would still work.JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Thanks for the tip. There are some folks like me who believe by pulling back or going NC on an uninterested rude chick, they could refresh their image and change the perception of the chick.nismo-4 said:[...], you won't be seen as alpha. You'll be seen as useless because she isn't sexually interested.
The view can be changed, but not worth it while your trying to get something out of them. The fastest way to change their view is leave them alone and go get some other female(s). They will perceive you differently once they know you do have an abundance.Suspens said:By throwing trash at them.
Thanks for the tip. There are some folks like me who believe by pulling back or going NC on an uninterested rude chick, they could refresh their image and change the perception of the chick.
But experienced chicks will categorize you quickly and it is too hard/not worth it to change their view.
Leaving them would just make them happy that you finally got the hint and gave up.DaddyLongShanks said:The fastest way to change their view is leave them alone and go get some other female(s). They will perceive you differently once they know you do have an abundance.
If this is true then you should be happy. Most women will come back sniffing around after you moved on and have success in your life.Suspens said:Leaving them would just make them happy that you finally got the hint and gave up.
So too often, guys end up rewarding bad behavior then go and complain about that exact behavior he had just rewarded. Guys need to take ownership and see that they are ultimately the one in control - not her. It's not about treating them like trash, it's about holding them to certain expectations. If they don't comply with your standard, then treat them as their behavior warrants, or just back away.bigneil said:Good points Stevo and RangerMike.
Welcome to the red zone Kevin.
Alpha is a relative term, and Alpha's never directly call another person a Beta. That is implied by his presence in the room (there can be no Internet Alpha per se). Indeed, only a Beta intentionally seeks to mistreat women (his pain stems from his failures).
Spitefulness = weakness.
A true Alpha has so many women throwing themselves at him that he doesn't have time to be mean, he just finds someone else to treat right. An alpha is overflowing with generosity because the world rewards him for it. That said, when a woman mistreats him, he puts her in her place (often the trash barrel as he discards her), but normally he chooses to ignore bad behavior and reward good behavior.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.