You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
This...bigneil said:This is a false assumption. Women (after they are dumped) will say the guy treated them like trash, but only in past tense. They don't seek guys who treat them like trash in real time. Any time I tried to be an as-shole I succeeded, and not in a good way.
The understanding is wrong.Thechamp said:How to treat women like trash be honest the hottest women Go with men that treat them like trash , the qestion is how !!
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Alpha is a relative term, and Alpha's never directly call another person a Beta. That is implied by his presence in the room (there can be no Internet Alpha per se). Indeed, only a Beta intentionally seeks to mistreat women (his pain stems from his failures).JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
bigneil said:Good points Stevo and RangerMike.
Welcome to the red zone Kevin.
Alpha is a relative term, and Alpha's never directly call another person a Beta. That is implied by his presence in the room (there can be no Internet Alpha per se). Indeed, only a Beta intentionally seeks to mistreat women (his pain stems from his failures).
Spitefulness = weakness.
A true Alpha has so many women throwing themselves at him that he doesn't have time to be mean, he just finds someone else to treat right. An alpha is overflowing with generosity because the world rewards him for it. That said, when a woman mistreats him, he puts her in her place (often the trash barrel as he discards her), but normally he chooses to ignore bad behavior and reward good behavior.
Low quality women like to be treated like trash. Fake alphas who act like d1cks to everyone are really betas.JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
So a Marine Drill Sergent is a "beta"? There are some roles and positions an Alpha will find himself in, where he is not very giving, not generous and issuing orders and forcing compliance.Peña said:Low quality women like to be treated like trash. Fake alphas who act like d1cks to everyone are really betas.
A sergent is absolutely Beta. He reports to staff sergeant, who reports to first sergent, who reports to sergent major, who reports to the General, who reports to the President, who reports to the Central bank, who reports to the shareholders, who report to the Board of Directors, who report to the Secret Government, who report to Satan.DaddyLongShanks said:So a Marine Drill Sergent is a "beta"? There are some roles and positions an Alpha will find himself in, where he is not very giving, not generous and issuing orders and forcing compliance.
This. If you are an alpha man, you can get away with anything with a woman. You can be a murdering psychopath and she will still kiss the ground you walk on.JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
It is easy to shout orders to others and make them do things when you are above them in ranking. Anybody can do that. Your job does not make you an alpha or a beta. It is how you are all around is what makes you an alpha or a beta. That drill sergeant could act like a beta around women when he is not giving orders. He could act like a beta to his superior officers who gives him orders. His beta behavior away from his job does not make him an alpha.DaddyLongShanks said:So a Marine Drill Sergent is a "beta"? There are some roles and positions an Alpha will find himself in, where he is not very giving, not generous and issuing orders and forcing compliance.
You could treat a woman indifferently as an alpha male and it would still work.JohnyTheArrow said:You are wrong.Women love be treated like trash by alpha male - but any other male is not acceptable.You are beta trying to do things reserved for alpha - FAIL.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Thanks for the tip. There are some folks like me who believe by pulling back or going NC on an uninterested rude chick, they could refresh their image and change the perception of the chick.nismo-4 said:[...], you won't be seen as alpha. You'll be seen as useless because she isn't sexually interested.
The view can be changed, but not worth it while your trying to get something out of them. The fastest way to change their view is leave them alone and go get some other female(s). They will perceive you differently once they know you do have an abundance.Suspens said:By throwing trash at them.
Thanks for the tip. There are some folks like me who believe by pulling back or going NC on an uninterested rude chick, they could refresh their image and change the perception of the chick.
But experienced chicks will categorize you quickly and it is too hard/not worth it to change their view.
Leaving them would just make them happy that you finally got the hint and gave up.DaddyLongShanks said:The fastest way to change their view is leave them alone and go get some other female(s). They will perceive you differently once they know you do have an abundance.
If this is true then you should be happy. Most women will come back sniffing around after you moved on and have success in your life.Suspens said:Leaving them would just make them happy that you finally got the hint and gave up.
So too often, guys end up rewarding bad behavior then go and complain about that exact behavior he had just rewarded. Guys need to take ownership and see that they are ultimately the one in control - not her. It's not about treating them like trash, it's about holding them to certain expectations. If they don't comply with your standard, then treat them as their behavior warrants, or just back away.bigneil said:Good points Stevo and RangerMike.
Welcome to the red zone Kevin.
Alpha is a relative term, and Alpha's never directly call another person a Beta. That is implied by his presence in the room (there can be no Internet Alpha per se). Indeed, only a Beta intentionally seeks to mistreat women (his pain stems from his failures).
Spitefulness = weakness.
A true Alpha has so many women throwing themselves at him that he doesn't have time to be mean, he just finds someone else to treat right. An alpha is overflowing with generosity because the world rewards him for it. That said, when a woman mistreats him, he puts her in her place (often the trash barrel as he discards her), but normally he chooses to ignore bad behavior and reward good behavior.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.