"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to proceed?

ThisStopsNow

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Date 1; heavy makeout
Date 2; slept with her.
Background; known each other for a while and she's been trying to get my attention throughout.

Turns out she was the super religious type who was waiting for marriage i.e. I took her virginity. Then turns out she was seeing some guy for 6 months unofficially that 'was not working out' that she broke up with after date 1 with me.

Now she has become an emotional ball of crazy trying to work out where she stands with religion and how in her 'dishonesty', she had become someone she never planned to be.

She became scared of how quickly we became physical or how I got in her pants saying she just can't say no to me. So she wants to take it slow i.e. no sex. I told her I will always escalate and it is up to her to tell me to stop.

So where do I go from here guys? It's funny as a recovering beta how self improvement works in life. I guess in the back of my mind I'm doubting even her quality for a long term relationship although admittedly, each time we see each other, I lead and take what I want when I want.

How do I get her into bed again?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Thorninmyside

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I would act like you don't give a fuk and make her work to be your b'tch again. She probably expect to be courted and that's why you shouldn't do that. You've already had the goods. No point in doing the song and dance afterwards.
 

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Just keep doing what you did to fvck her the first time. Why ditch a plan that worked?
 

marmel75

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Oh man..perfect situation...You can just whisper in her ear how you loved it when she ***something explicitly sexual*** and then tell her how you love seeing that naughty girl come out and how you are going to need to punish her...

This is like some 50 shades of gray waiting to happen...she is inexperienced and you can basically do anything you want with her...if you make her squirt she will be yours forever...it won't even matter what you do...

Just keep pushing the envelope sexuallya nd tell her she needs to try something at least once before she claims she doesn't like it...You can pretty much use her to play out any sexual fantasy you have...
 
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