"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How to proceed/escalate?

Tedhe

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Hey Guys,

Looking for your guidance - recently meet a girl. Definite cutie - I like her vibe. Asked her for her number a couple of weeks ago and got it.

I waited a couple of days to message her as I had plans for the weekend.

Eventually did message her - had a low key good conversation (funny small talk kinda stuff) on Sunday. When the conversation was heating up she mentioned she was heading to a family event to which I said to message me whenever she was free.

She did.

But said she couldn’t talk because she had to study for a test. Said we’d talk soon.

Said no problem and good luck on her test.

Now I’m not sure how to approach. I don’t want to look desperate and iniate conversation again. But I would like to escalate as I would like to continue the pursuit.

Any advice?

Thanks everyone!
T

P.S it’s her bday this Wednesday and she has plans this Saturday. So asking her out this week would be tough.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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djthiago1

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AVOID special dates until in a relationship. (Bdays, easter, Xmas ....)
and
AVOID pointless messaging, set up a date, than another, than another, than other.
 

Tedhe

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I think letting the week play out is best - let her get her fun out for her bday (I don’t want any part of that)

I’ll wish her on Wednesday and reach out next week
 

narcissist

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Just ask her out now

If she is interested she will accept

If she says no, then ask her out next week

Stop stalling to avoid your fear of rejection

The best time to ask is always now
 

Tedhe

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Update.

Not good - Not bad.

Asked her out for this week but she said she was busy for the week and then she asked me if I was around on Saturday. Sadly I cannnot - as I am busy on Saturday - So it looks like the ask was nullified? How should I proceed?

Thanks for all the great advice too folks!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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