"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to persue girls with lowselfesteem/how many times can i miss up?

Thealcholichermit

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Persue as in bang and maintain her Attraction to me.
Little back ground me and this girl were supposed to meet after like 4 days of matching,i flaked last second cause i had something to do+she brought a judge with her( one of her friends) now im confident in my ability that if i actually met her i would charm her and her friend but thats not the case here.

Problem is after i tried to reschedule she flat out told me that she needs time to "heal" or something of this sort,i initiated once or twice after that same response,how to go from here(im not fixated on this particular chick,got options,its a learning experience) the interval between each initiation was about 8 days texting ping pong included, she is probably a relationship type,****ty ass childhood.

Second question,incase of displaying needy behavior or validation or(insert something i should not have said or done) that gave a girl a bit of power in the relationship
1.is it over at that point?
2.if not how can i regain control of the Dynamics?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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BackInTheGame78

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She isn't interested. It's all nonsense. Nobody is that fragile that they need to heal from someone wanting to reschedule a date. Give me a break OP.
 

BackInTheGame78

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Aight for argument sake,would a slight pull back raise the interest or skio?
Just tell her something like

"Well it seems you are busy or need some time, which is cool. I'd like to meet up with you but I don't play the chase game. The ball is in your court, feel free to let me know when you are available to meet but give a few day notice so I can make sure I have some availability."

And that's it. You don't send any other texts until you hear back from her. You made sure she knows a few things

1) You are OK with not seeing her and not upset or butt hurt
2) You are interested in seeing her
3) You aren't going to chase her and that she will need to make an effort if you are to meet up
4) You have a life and aren't going to accept a "Hey I'm free tonight" test for desperation.
 

Thealcholichermit

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Just tell her something like

"Well it seems you are busy or need some time, which is cool. I'd like to meet up with you but I don't play the chase game. The ball is in your court, feel free to let me know when you are available to meet but give a few day notice so I can make sure I have some availability."

And that's it. You don't send any other texts until you hear back from her. You made sure she knows a few things

1) You are OK with not seeing her and not upset or butt hurt
2) You are interested in seeing her
3) You aren't going to chase her and that she will need to make an effort if you are to meet up
4) You have a life and aren't going to accept a "Hey I'm free tonight" test for desperation.
Thanks for the input man
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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