CapedCrusader08
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I know how not too,but I have always come off as shy,even spaced out. But I need to know exactly how to not show any red flags as they say.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How to not come off as creepy/pyscho...
- Thread starter CapedCrusader08
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
LoneRanger
Don Juan
Same for me. Shy and spacy. Am looking forward to responses, too.CapedCrusader08 said:
Metaphysical
Senior Don Juan
i don't understand your question.CapedCrusader08 said:
if you are asking "How not to come off creepy"..
then the answer is simple.
DONT BE CREEPY.
go get laid. a lot. and you will learn what works and what doesn't work with women. by the time you laid 10-20 girls, you won't be creepy anymore.
what else do you wanna hear? sit in your room and meditate "I am not creepy"? haha.
just go out there and meet women man. you will mess up and make mistakes, but eventually you will learn. you can't sit on the internet and have someone tell you what is creepy and what is not creepy.
if a woman rolls her eyes at you, then it's probably creepy. if she cries on the phone because she's afraid of you, then you are creepy.
I know how not too,but I have always come off as shy,even spaced out. But I need to know exactly how to not show any red flags as they say.
Guess that makes two of us. I'm a weird person by nature so I guess me just being myself makes me a hopeless case. I don't bother talking to women I've never seen before because they act as if I'm about to rape or kill them. I even remember a case in which I was about to strike up a conversation at a park and this gorgeous brunette with giant knockers began running away from me (No exaggeration) as I was walking up to her. That wounded whatever small self esteem I had and it happened almost five years ago.
More recent ones are when I offered a girl I actually know a ride home and she gets all ****ing scared. She agreed to meet at a certain time and when the time came I soon realized she ran away. And even more recently I try to make small talk with a cute brunette I never even met but she puts on a fake smile and acts all evasive. Now every time I see her she rolls her eyes, crosses her arms and acts as if I'm not there. And to make a short story even shorter I had two attention *****s who were giving me all the signs and as I began walking to them they start running across the streets saying stuff with the word "rape" in it. I don't know why these things happen only to me but I guess I'm just a hideous mother****er, a psycho/creep or maybe all of the above.
Guess that makes two of us. I'm a weird person by nature so I guess me just being myself makes me a hopeless case. I don't bother talking to women I've never seen before because they act as if I'm about to rape or kill them. I even remember a case in which I was about to strike up a conversation at a park and this gorgeous brunette with giant knockers began running away from me (No exaggeration) as I was walking up to her. That wounded whatever small self esteem I had and it happened almost five years ago.
More recent ones are when I offered a girl I actually know a ride home and she gets all ****ing scared. She agreed to meet at a certain time and when the time came I soon realized she ran away. And even more recently I try to make small talk with a cute brunette I never even met but she puts on a fake smile and acts all evasive. Now every time I see her she rolls her eyes, crosses her arms and acts as if I'm not there. And to make a short story even shorter I had two attention *****s who were giving me all the signs and as I began walking to them they start running across the streets saying stuff with the word "rape" in it. I don't know why these things happen only to me but I guess I'm just a hideous mother****er, a psycho/creep or maybe all of the above.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
There are plenty of women out there who think they are outcasts, too:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1468664#post1468664
It is worse for them, because women tend to value social interaction more than men.
Some people are just loners, and that makes it a little harder to get girls. I grew up as an only child in the middle of nowhere, and I am pretty much a loner. My advice would be to pursue your hobbies and interests that women might find sexy. Motorcycles and other dangerous hobbies helped me. Martial arts helps now. But it does not have to be tough-guy stuff. A lot of women will go for artistic loners and musicians. If you are an artist, it is ok to be alone - you get one of the few exceptions to the loner=loser perception that a lot of women have. Being on a motorcycle or doing something exciting and dangerous helps, too. These things will make some women want you - never all women. No guy has a 100% chance with any given girl. Don't worry about individual failures, just cultivate the parts of you that raise your overall chances with girls. As soon as you start getting women, it all gets a lot easier.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1468664#post1468664
It is worse for them, because women tend to value social interaction more than men.
Some people are just loners, and that makes it a little harder to get girls. I grew up as an only child in the middle of nowhere, and I am pretty much a loner. My advice would be to pursue your hobbies and interests that women might find sexy. Motorcycles and other dangerous hobbies helped me. Martial arts helps now. But it does not have to be tough-guy stuff. A lot of women will go for artistic loners and musicians. If you are an artist, it is ok to be alone - you get one of the few exceptions to the loner=loser perception that a lot of women have. Being on a motorcycle or doing something exciting and dangerous helps, too. These things will make some women want you - never all women. No guy has a 100% chance with any given girl. Don't worry about individual failures, just cultivate the parts of you that raise your overall chances with girls. As soon as you start getting women, it all gets a lot easier.
WalkingStick
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Creepiness is a lot about context.
For the most part, if you're outgoing and friendly to everyone, you won't be creepy. Don't always focus your attention on one person too much.
For the most part, if you're outgoing and friendly to everyone, you won't be creepy. Don't always focus your attention on one person too much.
AlexParadox
Don Juan
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
There is another thread on here about that. No, don't fake it. It is better to be passionate about your passions, whatever they are.
But I am saying, if you are a loner, it helps with women to pursue either your dangerous or your artistic sides - these are two good angles to take to avoid seeming creepy.
But I am saying, if you are a loner, it helps with women to pursue either your dangerous or your artistic sides - these are two good angles to take to avoid seeming creepy.
roman
Don Juan
Being Comfortable and Natural in Social Situations
The key to being comfortable and natural in social situations is to expose yourself to social situations. Expose yourself, to as many situations and as varied of situation as possible. Force yourself to go out more, man. It will be very painful at first, believe me. But it's the only way to overcome that shyness. You will stumble, and you will fall. But by god you will pick yourself up and go at it again.
Man, a lot of people are saying "go get laid, that will solve your shyness". That's not it. That's like telling someone with vertigo to go scale the Eiffel tower and bungee from the top. See, we work up to that.
Baby steps my friend. Start small and make yourself a schedule for going out more. Putting aside one or two weeknights for a "social awakening boot camp" will do you tremendously well, my timid friend. Go out with a buddy and learn a new bar game. Darts is my favorite choice. Pool is another excellent example. You want to ground yourself in something real you can focus on that's not centered around a pair of perky tits and a cute little ass. Later on in your awakening, when you're comfortable in your own self and you can maintain focus, that confidence will translate over into the realm of women. And then MAGIC, you're beginning to create attraction. Baby steps my friend.
The bar game and the conversation with your buddy(ies) will be the necessary tools in your social enlightenment. Not only do they ground you and focus you, but they also relax you and in turn make you more receptive to humor, which is absolutely key in attracting women.
If there's one thing I could tell you, man, it's to work on your overall social confidence first and foremost, and then and only then--only after you are confident and relaxed going out on a weeknight with a buddy to play a game of darts in a crowded bar--then you can think about sharpening it more specifically.
Sam Butcher
"Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain." -Mark Twain
The key to being comfortable and natural in social situations is to expose yourself to social situations. Expose yourself, to as many situations and as varied of situation as possible. Force yourself to go out more, man. It will be very painful at first, believe me. But it's the only way to overcome that shyness. You will stumble, and you will fall. But by god you will pick yourself up and go at it again.
Man, a lot of people are saying "go get laid, that will solve your shyness". That's not it. That's like telling someone with vertigo to go scale the Eiffel tower and bungee from the top. See, we work up to that.
Baby steps my friend. Start small and make yourself a schedule for going out more. Putting aside one or two weeknights for a "social awakening boot camp" will do you tremendously well, my timid friend. Go out with a buddy and learn a new bar game. Darts is my favorite choice. Pool is another excellent example. You want to ground yourself in something real you can focus on that's not centered around a pair of perky tits and a cute little ass. Later on in your awakening, when you're comfortable in your own self and you can maintain focus, that confidence will translate over into the realm of women. And then MAGIC, you're beginning to create attraction. Baby steps my friend.
The bar game and the conversation with your buddy(ies) will be the necessary tools in your social enlightenment. Not only do they ground you and focus you, but they also relax you and in turn make you more receptive to humor, which is absolutely key in attracting women.
If there's one thing I could tell you, man, it's to work on your overall social confidence first and foremost, and then and only then--only after you are confident and relaxed going out on a weeknight with a buddy to play a game of darts in a crowded bar--then you can think about sharpening it more specifically.
Sam Butcher
"Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain." -Mark Twain
Being Comfortable and Natural in Social Situations
The key to being comfortable and natural in social situations is to expose yourself to social situations. Expose yourself, to as many situations and as varied of situation as possible. Force yourself to go out more, man. It will be very painful at first, believe me. But it's the only way to overcome that shyness. You will stumble, and you will fall. But by god you will pick yourself up and go at it again.
Man, a lot of people are saying "go get laid, that will solve your shyness". That's not it. That's like telling someone with vertigo to go scale the Eiffel tower and bungee from the top. See, we work up to that.
Baby steps my friend. Start small and make yourself a schedule for going out more. Putting aside one or two weeknights for a "social awakening boot camp" will do you tremendously well, my timid friend. Go out with a buddy and learn a new bar game. Darts is my favorite choice. Pool is another excellent example. You want to ground yourself in something real you can focus on that's not centered around a pair of perky tits and a cute little ass. Later on in your awakening, when you're comfortable in your own self and you can maintain focus, that confidence will translate over into the realm of women. And then MAGIC, you're beginning to create attraction. Baby steps my friend.
The bar game and the conversation with your buddy(ies) will be the necessary tools in your social enlightenment. Not only do they ground you and focus you, but they also relax you and in turn make you more receptive to humor, which is absolutely key in attracting women.
If there's one thing I could tell you, man, it's to work on your overall social confidence first and foremost, and then and only then--only after you are confident and relaxed going out on a weeknight with a buddy to play a game of darts in a crowded bar--then you can think about sharpening it more specifically.
Sam Butcher
"Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain." -Mark Twain
Sounds like a plan
Only problem is I really don't have any friends. The only one I have is kind of ***** whipped at the moment.
The key to being comfortable and natural in social situations is to expose yourself to social situations. Expose yourself, to as many situations and as varied of situation as possible. Force yourself to go out more, man. It will be very painful at first, believe me. But it's the only way to overcome that shyness. You will stumble, and you will fall. But by god you will pick yourself up and go at it again.
Man, a lot of people are saying "go get laid, that will solve your shyness". That's not it. That's like telling someone with vertigo to go scale the Eiffel tower and bungee from the top. See, we work up to that.
Baby steps my friend. Start small and make yourself a schedule for going out more. Putting aside one or two weeknights for a "social awakening boot camp" will do you tremendously well, my timid friend. Go out with a buddy and learn a new bar game. Darts is my favorite choice. Pool is another excellent example. You want to ground yourself in something real you can focus on that's not centered around a pair of perky tits and a cute little ass. Later on in your awakening, when you're comfortable in your own self and you can maintain focus, that confidence will translate over into the realm of women. And then MAGIC, you're beginning to create attraction. Baby steps my friend.
The bar game and the conversation with your buddy(ies) will be the necessary tools in your social enlightenment. Not only do they ground you and focus you, but they also relax you and in turn make you more receptive to humor, which is absolutely key in attracting women.
If there's one thing I could tell you, man, it's to work on your overall social confidence first and foremost, and then and only then--only after you are confident and relaxed going out on a weeknight with a buddy to play a game of darts in a crowded bar--then you can think about sharpening it more specifically.
Sam Butcher
"Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain." -Mark Twain
Sounds like a plan
Only problem is I really don't have any friends. The only one I have is kind of ***** whipped at the moment."I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
daygameguy
Master Don Juan
Here's a simple solution to not being creepy:
SMILE.
^^smile when you open. have a positive value giving smile.
SMILE.
^^smile when you open. have a positive value giving smile.
LoneRanger
Don Juan
All of my friends are pvssy whipped as well :cuss: