"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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How to not come off as creepy/pyscho...

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I know how not too,but I have always come off as shy,even spaced out. But I need to know exactly how to not show any red flags as they say.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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CapedCrusader08 said:
I know how not too,but I have always come off as shy,even spaced out. But I need to know exactly how to not show any red flags as they say.
Same for me. Shy and spacy. Am looking forward to responses, too.
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
I know how not too,but I have always come off as shy,even spaced out. But I need to know exactly how to not show any red flags as they say.
i don't understand your question.

if you are asking "How not to come off creepy"..

then the answer is simple.

DONT BE CREEPY.

go get laid. a lot. and you will learn what works and what doesn't work with women. by the time you laid 10-20 girls, you won't be creepy anymore.

what else do you wanna hear? sit in your room and meditate "I am not creepy"? haha.

just go out there and meet women man. you will mess up and make mistakes, but eventually you will learn. you can't sit on the internet and have someone tell you what is creepy and what is not creepy.

if a woman rolls her eyes at you, then it's probably creepy. if she cries on the phone because she's afraid of you, then you are creepy.
 

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Creepiness is a multitude of things, with one of the main things trying to be controlling.

Things like stalking, staring with a blank look on your face, touching her in awkward ways are all examples of creepy.
 

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I know how not too,but I have always come off as shy,even spaced out. But I need to know exactly how to not show any red flags as they say.

Guess that makes two of us. I'm a weird person by nature so I guess me just being myself makes me a hopeless case. I don't bother talking to women I've never seen before because they act as if I'm about to rape or kill them. I even remember a case in which I was about to strike up a conversation at a park and this gorgeous brunette with giant knockers began running away from me (No exaggeration) as I was walking up to her. That wounded whatever small self esteem I had and it happened almost five years ago.

More recent ones are when I offered a girl I actually know a ride home and she gets all ****ing scared. She agreed to meet at a certain time and when the time came I soon realized she ran away. And even more recently I try to make small talk with a cute brunette I never even met but she puts on a fake smile and acts all evasive. Now every time I see her she rolls her eyes, crosses her arms and acts as if I'm not there. And to make a short story even shorter I had two attention *****s who were giving me all the signs and as I began walking to them they start running across the streets saying stuff with the word "rape" in it. I don't know why these things happen only to me but I guess I'm just a hideous mother****er, a psycho/creep or maybe all of the above.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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There are plenty of women out there who think they are outcasts, too:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1468664#post1468664

It is worse for them, because women tend to value social interaction more than men.

Some people are just loners, and that makes it a little harder to get girls. I grew up as an only child in the middle of nowhere, and I am pretty much a loner. My advice would be to pursue your hobbies and interests that women might find sexy. Motorcycles and other dangerous hobbies helped me. Martial arts helps now. But it does not have to be tough-guy stuff. A lot of women will go for artistic loners and musicians. If you are an artist, it is ok to be alone - you get one of the few exceptions to the loner=loser perception that a lot of women have. Being on a motorcycle or doing something exciting and dangerous helps, too. These things will make some women want you - never all women. No guy has a 100% chance with any given girl. Don't worry about individual failures, just cultivate the parts of you that raise your overall chances with girls. As soon as you start getting women, it all gets a lot easier.
 

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Creepiness is a lot about context.

For the most part, if you're outgoing and friendly to everyone, you won't be creepy. Don't always focus your attention on one person too much.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
My advice would be to pursue your hobbies and interests that women might find sexy. Motorcycles and other dangerous hobbies helped me. Martial arts helps now.
What happens if a man's hobbies aren't an interest to women? Should he take up a hobby that he hates but will interest women? Isn't this the opposite of being a DJ because it's a form of fakeness?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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There is another thread on here about that. No, don't fake it. It is better to be passionate about your passions, whatever they are.

But I am saying, if you are a loner, it helps with women to pursue either your dangerous or your artistic sides - these are two good angles to take to avoid seeming creepy.
 

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i was in that spot like a year ago. Just be comfortable. Give it time. Youll get out of that zone after you get more time with girls around you.
 

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Being Comfortable and Natural in Social Situations

The key to being comfortable and natural in social situations is to expose yourself to social situations. Expose yourself, to as many situations and as varied of situation as possible. Force yourself to go out more, man. It will be very painful at first, believe me. But it's the only way to overcome that shyness. You will stumble, and you will fall. But by god you will pick yourself up and go at it again.

Man, a lot of people are saying "go get laid, that will solve your shyness". That's not it. That's like telling someone with vertigo to go scale the Eiffel tower and bungee from the top. See, we work up to that.

Baby steps my friend. Start small and make yourself a schedule for going out more. Putting aside one or two weeknights for a "social awakening boot camp" will do you tremendously well, my timid friend. Go out with a buddy and learn a new bar game. Darts is my favorite choice. Pool is another excellent example. You want to ground yourself in something real you can focus on that's not centered around a pair of perky tits and a cute little ass. Later on in your awakening, when you're comfortable in your own self and you can maintain focus, that confidence will translate over into the realm of women. And then MAGIC, you're beginning to create attraction. Baby steps my friend.

The bar game and the conversation with your buddy(ies) will be the necessary tools in your social enlightenment. Not only do they ground you and focus you, but they also relax you and in turn make you more receptive to humor, which is absolutely key in attracting women.

If there's one thing I could tell you, man, it's to work on your overall social confidence first and foremost, and then and only then--only after you are confident and relaxed going out on a weeknight with a buddy to play a game of darts in a crowded bar--then you can think about sharpening it more specifically.

Sam Butcher

"Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain." -Mark Twain
 

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Being Comfortable and Natural in Social Situations
The key to being comfortable and natural in social situations is to expose yourself to social situations. Expose yourself, to as many situations and as varied of situation as possible. Force yourself to go out more, man. It will be very painful at first, believe me. But it's the only way to overcome that shyness. You will stumble, and you will fall. But by god you will pick yourself up and go at it again.

Man, a lot of people are saying "go get laid, that will solve your shyness". That's not it. That's like telling someone with vertigo to go scale the Eiffel tower and bungee from the top. See, we work up to that.

Baby steps my friend. Start small and make yourself a schedule for going out more. Putting aside one or two weeknights for a "social awakening boot camp" will do you tremendously well, my timid friend. Go out with a buddy and learn a new bar game. Darts is my favorite choice. Pool is another excellent example. You want to ground yourself in something real you can focus on that's not centered around a pair of perky tits and a cute little ass. Later on in your awakening, when you're comfortable in your own self and you can maintain focus, that confidence will translate over into the realm of women. And then MAGIC, you're beginning to create attraction. Baby steps my friend.

The bar game and the conversation with your buddy(ies) will be the necessary tools in your social enlightenment. Not only do they ground you and focus you, but they also relax you and in turn make you more receptive to humor, which is absolutely key in attracting women.

If there's one thing I could tell you, man, it's to work on your overall social confidence first and foremost, and then and only then--only after you are confident and relaxed going out on a weeknight with a buddy to play a game of darts in a crowded bar--then you can think about sharpening it more specifically.

Sam Butcher

"Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain." -Mark Twain


Sounds like a plan :up: Only problem is I really don't have any friends. The only one I have is kind of ***** whipped at the moment.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Here's a simple solution to not being creepy:

SMILE.

^^smile when you open. have a positive value giving smile.
 
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