"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to keep her interested early on

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OK here’s the deal. Matt is super cool woman online and set up a date for today. So we had been talking and texting for about two or three days.

Emergency comes up with her daughter who had to be taken to the hospital last night and of course Date is now postponed until next Saturday.

Very challenging to keep anyone’s interest for that long before you meet. My typical rule is that if I’m not meeting a woman within four days or so of us starting conversation then I’m out.

Anyone got advice. I know not to bombard with texts and phone calls. But not sure what to say to keep her interest. The good news is that she sent the initial reach out to me so that’s certainly a sign of interest. But as we all know a woman’s interest can vanish overnight for very much no reason.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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While that’s tempting, I don’t want her to think I’m not interested. Damm women, so hard to figure out.
 

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While that’s tempting, I don’t want her to think I’m not interested. Damm women, so hard to figure out.
Funny thing, the less interest you show the more they want you. Continue focusing on yourself, if she wants to see you she will reach out.
 

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Yup. Your right. Ok. Will do. Who knows if we ever meet.

Sometimes I gotta ask,,, why can women be more like men. Non of this secret language and all that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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let the girl choose you first whether its online or in a club, mall or whatever.
 

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Listen to stormrider as a general way of life.
Meeting a woman within 4 days or moving on? What kind of BS is that. Makes you miss out on a ton of women, not everyone is that eager to meeting up, especially those who have a life and you're just a name on their phone until you meet.
Besides she is a single mom? Don't give too much priority there. Stay back and do your thing and here even more.
Your neediness of not potentially losing this single mom is shining through your post, not good. Work on yourself.
 

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But not sure what to say to keep her interest.
ring her and say you have a 12 inch ****.

I'm still talking to a girl i have told this too. shes been ringing me and i haven't answered her tonight since I wanna listen to music.
there's my advice. of course there's more to it.
 

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Funny thing, the less interest you show the more they want you. Continue focusing on yourself, if she wants to see you she will reach out.
Funny thing is, this holds true if she has high interest in you and she hasn't met a better man. Do you know how many men approach her in 4 days? 64!
 

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OK here’s the deal. Matt is super cool woman online and set up a date for today. So we had been talking and texting for about two or three days.

Emergency comes up with her daughter who had to be taken to the hospital last night and of course Date is now postponed until next Saturday.

Very challenging to keep anyone’s interest for that long before you meet. My typical rule is that if I’m not meeting a woman within four days or so of us starting conversation then I’m out.

Anyone got advice. I know not to bombard with texts and phone calls. But not sure what to say to keep her interest. The good news is that she sent the initial reach out to me so that’s certainly a sign of interest. But as we all know a woman’s interest can vanish overnight for very much no reason.
How the fvck are you still wasting your time with this woman, does she open her legs within 3 dates? if yes fine otherwise NEXT because you ain't her priority, she got better prospect/s. And by the why online dating is a buffer for rejection, quit online dating
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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ok.. all great advice.... I have only responded when she texts or calls first. We are meeting this Saturday night.

Now here's something I want to get opinions on. She says in a text to "always ask, never assume"

Okay I could say assume what? but what do you guys think she is talking about? I just said "ok, I can do that"
 

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ok.. all great advice.... I have only responded when she texts or calls first. We are meeting this Saturday night.

Now here's something I want to get opinions on. She says in a text to "always ask, never assume"

Okay I could say assume what? but what do you guys think she is talking about? I just said "ok, I can do that"
that is nice she is already testing you, do your things and don't ask permission, she want you to ask permission to do things, when you should just do things
 

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ok.. all great advice.... I have only responded when she texts or calls first. We are meeting this Saturday night.

Now here's something I want to get opinions on. She says in a text to "always ask, never assume"

Okay I could say assume what? but what do you guys think she is talking about? I just said "ok, I can do that"
PITB.....Definitely butsecks
 

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Yup. This one went dead. Just too many days between first contact and face to face. Next!
 

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Yup. This one went dead. Just too many days between first contact and face to face. Next!
Don't give up. Play it cool. Remember her hint "always ask, never assume" so never assume anything, including she went dead. Wait some time and reconnect. I would say 30 days. Not more.
Her text may sound like a test, but a test is a test not a phrase, statment or riddle open to interpretation and perception. In the interin, NEXT, but don't ever turn your back on any woman.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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YUP.... of course she popped up today. I literally feel like asking her point blank "are we ever gonna meet" "are you really interested"
NO NO NO,,, I know not to ask that,,, that is what a Beta would say,,, but it is so tempting...

and there are at least 3 other women I am talking to that all resist to setup the first date as well.... so frustrating
 

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YUP.... of course she popped up today. I literally feel like asking her point blank "are we ever gonna meet" "are you really interested"
NO NO NO,,, I know not to ask that,,, that is what a Beta would say,,, but it is so tempting...

and there are at least 3 other women I am talking to that all resist to setup the first date as well.... so frustrating
Don't ask her now. She will say no. Instead approach her and see if you can bring up a good mood, but dont ask her to go out. Simply try to reconnect.
 

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and there are at least 3 other women I am talking to that all resist to setup the first date as well.... so frustrating
Get used to it, women are the biggest flakes ever. Focus your energy on women with high interest in you.
 

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Get used to it, women are the biggest flakes ever. Focus your energy on women with high interest in you.
More they sure are. Women are slaves to their emotions. So while it might feel like a good idea to meet with you today, by the time Friday rolls around they don’t feel like meeting with you.
 

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Get used to it, women are the biggest flakes ever. Focus your energy on women with high interest in you.
pointless, they all show high interest now, my uncles dated a woman his age, shes an ageing 46 year old, and even shes playing up like a desired 26 year old who wants orbiters........then she checks back in again to make sure "she hasnt lost him"......****ing sickening , fortunately he has me to advise
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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