She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Hurt people hurt people. That was a huge part of the game.see me being careful right here; thanks for your replies
My friend who does it has her religious "reason", and the fact she will force a man to go along with her viewpoint. That's real important to her. As a result, she's a bit meaner and less attractive than she could be is someone was "grooming" her in the romantic aspect.Then something else is off. If you had your shyt together you would attract some great men. Denying secs as a part of the human experience is a lie.
Its how the species goes on.
Thanks for your thoughts. string tooMy friend who does it has her religious "reason", and the fact she will force a man to go along with her viewpoint. That's real important to her. As a result, she's a bit meaner and less attractive than she could be is someone was "grooming" her in the romantic aspect.
I know for a fact she could look "fine" if she let someone groom her inimately. Shes let that part die off, unfed. Makes up for it with more azzhole ism.Thanks for your thoughts. string too
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
"String too"? What does that mean.Thanks for your thoughts. string too
okI know for a fact she could look "fine" if she let someone groom her inimately. Shes let that part die off, unfed. Makes up for it with more azzhole ism.
I guess opportunities do present themselves. I'm open.
member called stringpuller, string for short"String too"? What does that mean.
Player Supreme, I know a lot of folks "hate" him, was the one that reiterated that over and over to shove it down your throat until you get it. There are a few basic rules that if you follow them, you will never devalue yourself, and your attraction and masculine swagger can remain peaked.Very true. I read Corey Wayne's "How to be a 3% man" and he wants it ingrained in his readers heads that women do the chasing.
If a woman likes you, she will help you.
I've noticed if I have to work to try and a particular females attention (e.g. trying to get her to make eye contact) her interest level is low.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
After getting your head run into the wall enough times, you'll get it and won't need to think about it. So some of us did things great for a long time. And you take a bad turn and get into unfamiliar territory.Yes, he says to read his book multiple times so it is second nature.
Advice from the old lady:Thanks guys...
Well...after ghosting her, I tossed her number. Been about 2 weeks.
Go figure she messaged me today...apologized for not responding sooner, as she has been crazy busy...asking how I've been...how class is, what has been going on, etc. Nothing really personal
I wrote her off already, so have not replied as yet...
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
My experience with women coming back to you like this is that they are doing one of two things:Well...
She did not give me a chance to text her back...as she took it upon herself to call me 15 minutes ago.
She apologized for being a "shyt"...said she has been crazy busy. Wanted to chat, catch up, etc. I kept it very friendly, and I DID NOT attempt to make any type of plans with her. Setting myself up for rejection, I think...so I'll let her take the lead on that. I think I let the convo go on too long...but whatever.
Onward and upward.
Would somebody PLEASE sticky the above post?A few thoughts on this:
It's bad advice and a bad strategy to wait around for a girl to chase, call, or pursue you. Many don't and won't even if they want to, especially the attractive ones. Plus, it goes against the Law of Jungle. You want it? You take it. Or at least try. ALWAYS be the aggressor. Don't make the woman be the "man" by waiting around for her to chase or ask you out.
There is a huge difference in chasing vs. pursuing. Chasing is keeping after her even after she blows you off, flakes, makes excuses, gives you the LJBF talk, displays continually low IOI, or anything related. Pursuing is you planning a date and asking her if she'd like to join you--like you're doing it with or without her anyway. If you start dating her consistently, same thing. YOU plan the dates and make things happen. Always LEAD and act the MAN's part. We are the stronger, more assertive, dominant sex. Act like it and don't be a p*ussy.
One thing 98% of all men don't understand: Men are like blowtorches and women are like ovens. Proven fact. Many, many reasons for this and most are biological and evolutionary. Meaning we see a hot woman and want to immediately f*uck her. Women see a guy and think "Wow, who's he? I wonder what he's about?" and then she will look over covertly a few times or even place herself proximate to you and not say a word. There are differences between boys and girls and this is a big one. So just because she's lukewarm on date #1, doesn't mean you're 100% automatically out. Some women won't show all their cards and warm slowly. The key question is, are you advancing or just continuing things? You need to get good at reading the situation. A few moving parts here but the most important are does she accept your date offers and is she open to your escalations (which MUST be done)? A NO and NO and she's out. Don't turn into a Beta Male Orbiter as most guys would.
OP, my advice to you is to withdraw your attention for a while, maybe a few weeks. Then, message her again to say hi and check in. If you feel a vibe, tell her you're doing XY and Z and ask if she'd like to join you. If she gives you another "no" without a counter offer, lose the number and move on. If it's a yes, you MUST escalate on the date even if you risk a crash and burn. Got it?
Good luck.
~Dash~
Younger women indeed do chase. I know your older. 35 and below its very common for them to act like a guy and go after what they want.Would somebody PLEASE sticky the above post?
I (as a woman) am constantly jumping up and down around here trying to get men to understand that the best/prettiest/hottest/most high value women are NOT going to come running after a man. They are NOT going to initiate. These women want a MAN and if guys expect them to take the man’s role? Poof. They vanish thinking you’re a wishy washy wimp and they move on fast without wasting time.
I’ve been on about this on here for years. YEARS. Ok rant over.
Read and reread Dash’s posts guys. Especially the first paragraph.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.