You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
AGREED,but that's only part of the problem.Othello said:Just from reading your posts, you seem to comply to women a little bit too much.
Igetit! said:AGREED,SBW,you seemed to be upset with this girl over those "b!tchy" text messages she sent you the other night.
If you'd just be a man and refuse to be treated with anything LESS THAN dignity and respect,she'd either rise her behavior up to the level that she knows you find acceptable,or you'd have kicked her childishness and indecisiveness to the curb a long time ago.
To be honest,I don't know which one is worse:Her immature,infantile behavior,or you choosing to continue putting up with it.
Seems to me like you have oneitus. No man in his right mind would settle for being some chick's side show while she's waiting for the main attraction to come along.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
This is the same girl who you originally started posting in this thread about,the one you want to form a relationship with,but who's been keeps giving you the run-a-round for the past 7 months,right?SBW said:In the time it took me to go to my PC & type this, she has sent me another four appealing/desperate texts have replied to say "hang-on!"
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Igetit! said:Anyway,this is kinda what I figured what would happen. It's like I said,if you back off,TRUELY BACKOFF,then she'd go nuts trying to use whatever she could get her hands on you get you back tangled up in that neverending foolishness,but honestly,using her kid????
That's low dude. That's real low.
I can see using sex,but to go as far as using her kid to lure you back is kind of sick. And the crazy part is she's not even doing it to get back into a relationship with you,she's trying to get you back to being on "standby" mode. I don't even know what to say about that.
I guess you can reply whatever you want. I wouldn't have replied at all.
Thanks - Yes it seems to be going great FTM.Weezy said:This post is a great example of why you need to go strait NC...
Any power my EX had over me is gone as I don't have any desire to be with her now that I've hung out with other chicks.
NC just plan fn works. SBW.. You really should open your eyes man, you're just causing yourself way to much fn pain man... It isn't worth it.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Well, she said "anniversary" so its been at least a year. Wouldn't you have shown some symptoms by now?SBW said:We were at a party in her hometown a while back and one of the fellow guests has just died from a serious and infectious illness, so there is a risk of exposure for everyone who was there. The local hospital is treating it pretty seriously and have set-up a drop-in clinic for anyone who might have been exposed to to get checked out.
I don't know the poor woman but at we were sitting with her brother and his wife, so there is probably a genuine reason to at least be checked and eliminated?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.