i'm currently with this girl with extremely high interest level but not much experience. she always tries to lay down ground rules and other awkward mood killing things before anything happens. (could also because she thinks of me as the player type) i'm trying to just have this girl be a last summer fling so how can i get her to open up a bit?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
how to get a prude to open up
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Ask her how it would work if you would both just do whatever you felt like doing and if she thinks you're doing something wrong, she'll tell you to stop and you will.
Here.. the key is to turn her on to make her want to move on to the next level before she could say stop. TEASE her into wanting more. if the next step is to touch her breasts, then touch her back, her sides, her stomach, kiss her collarbone.. get REALLY close with your hands then move away for a few minutes and shift to her back again.. repeat a few times. when you feel she's ready, you go for grabbing her breast, also slow and probing. same goes for absolutely everything else.
women take about 20-30 minutes longer than men to get turned on, so if you make HER wait past those 20-30 minutes.. she's yours.
Here.. the key is to turn her on to make her want to move on to the next level before she could say stop. TEASE her into wanting more. if the next step is to touch her breasts, then touch her back, her sides, her stomach, kiss her collarbone.. get REALLY close with your hands then move away for a few minutes and shift to her back again.. repeat a few times. when you feel she's ready, you go for grabbing her breast, also slow and probing. same goes for absolutely everything else.
women take about 20-30 minutes longer than men to get turned on, so if you make HER wait past those 20-30 minutes.. she's yours.
MacDiddy
Master Don Juan
Agree with her LMR.. "Yes... we shouldn't be doing this!!" Then continue the lay like what you said never really registered in your mind.
Make the HO say NO!!!
Make the HO say NO!!!
I'm Joe Dirt
Master Don Juan
She beat you to it with the ground rules.
Next time you are about to lay down or cuddle YOU make a ground rule "alright, lets cuddle but no kissing" or "fine lets lay down on the bed but no funny business, ok?"
Next time you are about to lay down or cuddle YOU make a ground rule "alright, lets cuddle but no kissing" or "fine lets lay down on the bed but no funny business, ok?"
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
sounds like that could backfire...you want me to "out prude" her?Originally posted by I'm Joe Dirt
She beat you to it with the ground rules.
Next time you are about to lay down or cuddle YOU make a ground rule "alright, lets cuddle but no kissing" or "fine lets lay down on the bed but no funny business, ok?"
so all of my efforts failed to get her to go for more than an HJ. i feel like theres some greater issue here...can't tell whats up with this whole thing though. very frustrating. i've been as persistant as i can be and although i didn't mind hookin up with this girl for a while, i'd really like to step things up here.
my ex was a huge prude too.
what you can try is not touch her for a day or two, she will be like "whats wrong you are so distant? you dont like me anymore?"
chances are she will initiate the touching and maybe you are a level up in the touchabillity so to speak.
worth a try i suppose
what you can try is not touch her for a day or two, she will be like "whats wrong you are so distant? you dont like me anymore?"
chances are she will initiate the touching and maybe you are a level up in the touchabillity so to speak.
worth a try i suppose
yea i was thinking about inviting her over to watch a movie and just act all engrossed in the movie and just ignore her. i'm not about to settle for no BJ BY THE 4th MEETING. my pen0r needs some serious attention lol.
EDIT: i just found her hair clip in my bed...not sure whether this is the intentional marking of territory or if she actually forgot it.
EDIT: i just found her hair clip in my bed...not sure whether this is the intentional marking of territory or if she actually forgot it.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.