But what @deesade means is you dont actually tell people to **** off, .
Cause I can actually see you texting that Ryan.
You show them with your actions , if they text after 6pm you reply mid morning after etc etc
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
how to deal with this?
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Cause I can actually see you texting that Ryan.
You show them with your actions , if they text after 6pm you reply mid morning after etc etc
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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I gotta it man like I said I come on here to vent because if not I'd be way worse lol. I did some thinking I'm not even gonna reach out to her. I mean I know she likes me when were drunk at a bar she acts like she is in love with me. but afterwords I get not much of anything. I mean she will text me but its nothing to go off of just kinda messes with my head.
Mate you do exactly what I said and you word it exactly like I said no kisses no hi babe no good morning good night faggot ****,
No good saying "I'm gonna drop this chick"
Because as soon as she contacts ya, your mind will go into desperation mode , we all know you ain't gonna drop this chick
However if you start listening to the advice and words ive took the time to assist you with and others have, theres a high possibly you can reattract her and some power...then bang
Or you can keep doing it your cherry picking way
No good saying "I'm gonna drop this chick"
Because as soon as she contacts ya, your mind will go into desperation mode , we all know you ain't gonna drop this chick
However if you start listening to the advice and words ive took the time to assist you with and others have, theres a high possibly you can reattract her and some power...then bang
Or you can keep doing it your cherry picking way
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I know I know. just declined an invitation to a bar she's at so thats a step...
Good so shes messaged counter offer her tomm about 3pm
"Couldn't make last night had other plans, how about me and you go out X day X time to X place (your idea the place not hers)"
Anything other than "great" ....ignore no reply no time to **** about
"Couldn't make last night had other plans, how about me and you go out X day X time to X place (your idea the place not hers)"
Anything other than "great" ....ignore no reply no time to **** about
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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I just declined the offer. it wasn't even directed towards only me it was in the group chat and at me and my buddy tommy. I just didn't respond.
OK remain nc till you hear from her direct and reread the last 20 comments in this thread and keep rereading them
I think we've covered every scenario, what to do and what not to do
If ive told you a text word the text exactly how ive put, theres reasons for this
I personally wouldn't be in a group chat its an orbiter move not a chairman of the board move
I think we've covered every scenario, what to do and what not to do
If ive told you a text word the text exactly how ive put, theres reasons for this
I personally wouldn't be in a group chat its an orbiter move not a chairman of the board move
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yeah I was added against my will I had nothing to do with it lol
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ok she reached out to me and sent me a pic of her wearing my hat and said umm excuse me are you missing something. I said "not gonna lie you look good in my hat. any chance chance I'm gonna get it anytime this week" she said I will def get your hat to you this week. i said ok meet me somewhere were gonna get food then you can give it to me then. she said "just let me know what your up to during this week. I work during the day and my bday is Wednesday" " I said you let me know what your up to this week I work from 7-5 etc. then small chit chat about her bday plans. so it's I mean a small step forward I feel like.
thats good leave it a day text her tomm and make deffo plans that are your idea DONT ASK HER WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO, apart from obviously being courteous over time and day etc.........
also keep texts to 5 text max and clarify its just you and her!! anything else you say "maybe another time, keep in touch"
also keep texts to 5 text max and clarify its just you and her!! anything else you say "maybe another time, keep in touch"
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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im not planning on paying for her... she said to let her know what I'm up to this week. I told her how about you let ME know what your up to this week. she said I work during the day and my birthday is Wednesday.we made small chat about her bday plans and convo was done
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Don't chase those hoes, unless you want to become a low value beta orbiter.
You ask her once if she wants to come to your place to Netflix and Chill, tell her to bring the weed.
She declines, makes excuses, flakes, whatever.
You do nothing, you ghost, you forget about her.
You don't lecture her, you don't chase, you don't block her on social media, you do nothing but smile to yourself and she never hears from you again.
If she comes back a month later with a counter offer fine, if she doesn't also fine.
Spin plates, all the time.
You ask her once if she wants to come to your place to Netflix and Chill, tell her to bring the weed.
She declines, makes excuses, flakes, whatever.
You do nothing, you ghost, you forget about her.
You don't lecture her, you don't chase, you don't block her on social media, you do nothing but smile to yourself and she never hears from you again.
If she comes back a month later with a counter offer fine, if she doesn't also fine.
Spin plates, all the time.
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I'm a work in progress
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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ok update: she invited me to her bday and I went. at this point I don't care I went because I was bored and I had nothing to do. we talked etc etc nothing crazy then when she got more and more drunk she kept wanting to be near me I could tell. she was intentionally touching me etc. I don't even give 2 fvkz any more but goddamn when she's drunk she is all up in my space. it's a mind fvck she naturally had a flirty personality but when she's drunk her attention is directed towards me at all times.
This girl is into you. Just man up and escalate! ****, it's not that hard. She's gonna think you're not interested in about two weeks ago. You're gonna drop the ball on this one. Ask her out or isolate and kiss her. Forget texting game and what to do, be clear and direct. "Come hang out". When you hang out with her, kiss her immediately! Done deal.
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we've kissed before drunk.... I've mentioned food and she has never said no but never said yes either. I feel like she is playing the same game I am...holding back waiting to see if I text first etc... her friend is a huge thorn in my side also massive cvckblock. like I said this chick is a bar girl but I feel like her flirting is very harmless with everyone like she just has a very cutesy girly innocent personality. she was an ugly girl a few years ago I saw some old pics lol. so her personality is very innocent in a way. when I saw her last night I treated her like my little sister teased her talked to other Chicks in front of her. then after she had a few shots in her she had to sit right next to me basically touching me. if I stood up she stood up when I said I'm quitting drinking for a weeks she said she was doing the same thing even though I know she wasnt...i just for the life of me can't get her alone her and her friend are inseparable. I know this is a long and lame post but I gotta vent on here.
I don't understand how hard it is to get her contact details and ask to see her away from the friend....
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Really hard because she doesnt want that
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.