"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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how to deal with shy girls?

downbylaw

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Hi Guys,

I've tried the search before posting this, but haven't been very succesful. So I want to ask you guys for a little advice.
How do you deal with really really shy girls?
Because I'm having trouble to get into this one's world... to kind of brake her shield :)
It's been impossible to talk to her, since she never answer's her mobile phone and when I see her, she's always with her (male)friends. And on top of that she's really shy and quiet. So it's been really really hard to talk to her, even though we talked a few times before, but she looked quite unconfortable and monossilabic.
She has showed me signs of interest several times. She always stares at me, but when I go for the eye contact, she looks away. But at the same time, she doesn't seem too want me to get close to her.
Well... I really don't understand this. I'm trying to get a chance to ask her out. Or if you prefer to give her a chance to go out with me :p
Advices will be really appreciated. Sorry for the long post.

Cheers!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Shyness....

If you can get a shy one to give you the booty, congrats! It's a good time for real.

Now if it takes longer than two weeks, probably best just to find someone else.
 

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My best friend was going out with a shy chick (his current GF). It took him a while, to get sex from her, couple of months he told me. It's more than 2 years passed they're still together, so i guess it worked out. My other friend was dating yet another shy/inexperienced chick. Guess how long he waited for sex? Half a year!
Both of these girls are stable though, so maybe having a shy chick isnt that bad after all. It's a lot of effort to gain shy persons trust and get into the comfort zone.
 

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some of the best fuks ive ever had was with shy girls...and after u get their trust....you can make them suck ur dik all the time..
 

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Thx for the replies...
But I screwed up today...
The dialog was something like this
- do u like fireworks? (me)
- i suppose, why?
- wanna go to this place on saturday?
- dunno... maybe i was going with my friends...
- cool... c ya...

U guys have no idea how I'm killing myself for that last sentence... I dunno what was i thinking, I just should have kept it going...
So angry with myself at the moment...
I guess there is no way to fix this...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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First of all, cool off!

And I hope you didn't just walk up to her and said:

"Do you like fireworks?"

That sounds pretty stupid.

Anyway, just approach her again just before the fireworks or whatever you wanted to do with her... and ask her: "Hey, the fireworks are tomorrow, are you still going to be doing something with your friends?"

Is she even cares at all, she'd probably say no and go with you.

Honestly, I reckon you just leave it alone and move on... just stop talking to her. What she said was pretty much a let down. She don't seem too interested.

Good luck.
 

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Originally posted by Tails
First of all, cool off!

And I hope you didn't just walk up to her and said:

"Do you like fireworks?"

That sounds pretty stupid.
I reckon it does :)
But we were chating a bit... just small talk... like "what u up to" and stuff like that... and then I said "by the way, do u like fireworks?"
But I'm pretty sure I won't see her tomorrow... well... if I happen to bump into her I'll try again...
Thx for the advice :)
 

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Originally posted by downbylaw
I reckon it does :)
But we were chating a bit... just small talk... like "what u up to" and stuff like that... and then I said "by the way, do u like fireworks?"
But I'm pretty sure I won't see her tomorrow... well... if I happen to bump into her I'll try again...
Thx for the advice :)
She sounds like a snoozer dude.... the IL looks to be pretty low.... and yes, that exchange was weak.... you should have been, 'NO! ...get your coat on, you and I are going to see some God damn fireworks, and we're going to have a f'n great time, and that will be that.' ...then proceed to stick your tongue down her throat.
 

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Originally posted by InLawsHateMe
She sounds like a snoozer dude.... the IL looks to be pretty low.... and yes, that exchange was weak.... you should have been, 'NO! ...get your coat on, you and I are going to see some God damn fireworks, and we're going to have a f'n great time, and that will be that.' ...then proceed to stick your tongue down her throat.
God you crack me up! :)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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