"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
How to AVOID being flaked on before a date
- Thread starter Your_Royal_Flyness
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
Worrying about whether or not if a girl is gonna flake is like worrying about if the sun is going to rise.
If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. And if it isn't, then it isn't. The only thing we can do as men is ask the girl out. If the chick isn't interested, and she flakes out, then that's on her. You can't avoid it, because as we all know, sometimes a girl just isn't interested.
You just have to go into this game knowing that you can't bat 1.000. The only way to truly avoid flaking is to avoid asking women on dates. And there's no way we're gonna stop doing that.
So, warning signs or no warning signs, if the night ends with a girl flaking, then it's on to the next one.
If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. And if it isn't, then it isn't. The only thing we can do as men is ask the girl out. If the chick isn't interested, and she flakes out, then that's on her. You can't avoid it, because as we all know, sometimes a girl just isn't interested.
You just have to go into this game knowing that you can't bat 1.000. The only way to truly avoid flaking is to avoid asking women on dates. And there's no way we're gonna stop doing that.
So, warning signs or no warning signs, if the night ends with a girl flaking, then it's on to the next one.
Your_Royal_Flyness
Don Juan
In most instances, getting flaked on can be avoided. Guys repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot by being too available and acting too needy. The short vid is meant for guys to gauge her interest level and to react accordingly. While a guy is welcomed to play out the planned date from a hesitant girl, knowing the flake warnings helps him know where he stands.Iceberg said:
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My anti-flake techniques I've picked up over the years:
1. Call her around 10 or 11am the day of your planned date. Say you'll be a little late, you have an errand to run, and ask if she's okay with that. If she's going to flake she'll latch onto this as an easy excuse to get out of going.
2. Have plans of your own, you're a busy guy, right? Right? Tell her to call you when she's on her way. The idea with this one is that if she doesn't call then no sweat off your ass because you've already got stuff going on. If she does show up and didn't call then it's still her fault for not following directions.
1. Call her around 10 or 11am the day of your planned date. Say you'll be a little late, you have an errand to run, and ask if she's okay with that. If she's going to flake she'll latch onto this as an easy excuse to get out of going.
2. Have plans of your own, you're a busy guy, right? Right? Tell her to call you when she's on her way. The idea with this one is that if she doesn't call then no sweat off your ass because you've already got stuff going on. If she does show up and didn't call then it's still her fault for not following directions.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.