How should a cold approach look?

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

In my experience, women will often say these kinds of things as a screen. There's usually some ring of truth to it, she may actually be frustrated as all heck and is on a 'men stupid' kick and just wants to dance it off and reject would be suitors to prove to herself 'she's got it' or something. Be that as it may, she hardly needs to doll herself up and hit the town to accomplish this, she could just record herself in the driver's seat of her car and fake cry about it while dropping her socials for people to flood her inbox. lol

I catch flak for it, but I see what a woman says, especially in any introductory 'cold' phase as HR speak. They know whether a position is available or not and that the right candidate can be pushed in, but they'll either list insanely high barriers to entry, a lowball salary, or give some weird objections. Similar to getting a paper slid across a table that says "8k down, 586mo, 23% interest, 7 year note." You'd be surprised how many people sign it right away. Much like how quickly people buy into what a woman says she's doing. On one hand it should be glaringly obvious you're getting skrewed while the other for some reason wants to believe everyone will be as honest as we would like to think we are.

I've rarely moved in on anyone who doesn't show an insane amount of IOI's. That's just me. I like to nonverbally communicate that I know what she is doing and drive her insane. Most of the time they give up, but when they don't oh god is that fun! Hehehe. That, and I'm going to admit I'm a tad vain and love to be given IOIs.... Is what it is.

Wow. What a long winded and needlessly parabolic way of saying "I think both ya'll have a point."

 

[Cheeky_James]

You're preaching to the choir. More than a handful of times, I've seen gorgeous women at the bar just rejecting men.

One time, I actually got one of these girls' phone numbers after I'd seen her reject a bunch of guys, and she wasn't sure whether to give it out because she said she "kinda just hates men". As you might've guessed, it never went further than a short text conversation.



I get blown out of the water a ton. If I wrote up a report for every rejection, I'd have 5 times as many as I have lay reports, at least.

Not long ago, I went up to a girl and was very polite and respectful, but when I asked her her name, she said "it doesn't matter" and turned away to get back to her friends.



The advice I would give to such a person is this:

1. Improve as a man so you become the guy who DOES get attention from women
2. Stop being a pu**y - if it were easy to approach and seduce women, every guy would be doing it. Instead, something like 25-33% of men in my age bracket haven't had sex in the last year

I do, but I've been fiddling with the format. Right now, it's just me talking to the camera, reacting to good/bad dating advice I find online.

Bryce Preston Hayes on IG/YT/TikTok.

Very good advice there BPH .
that’s the core of it
1, dress and look as cute and sexy as possible
2, grow some big balls and behave as sexy as possible
That’s pretty much Game in a nutshell.

curious re the rejections - do you think you could have turned these “f-off vibes” around ? If you had some extra verbal Game skills?
Frame control stuff I’m thinking.,,hard banter stuff.
For me , if the chick gives me attitude it’s ’game On’ to engage in tryna break her down.

it can work, but only a %.
Sometimes this attitude is just the b1tch shield / pressure test .. to check a guys alpha qualities (imo/ime)
Brent Smith has a pretty good book with tons of lines to be used in such situs - I think named The Sh1t Test Encyclopaedia.. afai remember. Pretty solid stuff.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

Very good advice there BPH .
that’s the core of it
1, dress and look as cute and sexy as possible
2, grow some big balls and behave as sexy as possible
That’s pretty much Game in a nutshell.

curious re the rejections - do you think you could have turned these “f-off vibes” around ? If you had some extra verbal Game skills?
Frame control stuff I’m thinking.,,hard banter stuff.
For me , if the chick gives me attitude it’s ’game On’ to engage in tryna break her down.

it can work, but only a %.
Sometimes this attitude is just the b1tch shield / pressure test .. to check a guys alpha qualities (imo/ime)
Brent Smith has a pretty good book with tons of lines to be used in such situs - I think named The Sh1t Test Encyclopaedia.. afai remember. Pretty solid stuff.

Right.... Like "___ men, men are ___" a loud and obnoxious "YEAH!" instead of trying to reason, argue sometimes instantly gets them rolling.

 

[Velasco]

I never went to a club to dance with my girlfriends.

that’s you. therefore projecting what other girls reason for going out to bars

 

[Cheeky_James]

She "kinda hates men" but yet she's out at a bar/club surrounded by um... men? Some women are so full of ****. Lmao

But okay fair enough as I said it's been awhile since I did the bar/club thing.

well.. she could be out for other reasons no?
Girls nite out…post dinner drinks at bar to just check out the scene (and the competition)
Drowning her sorrows or b1tching about her BF w her girlfriends.
Or just out to reject hot dudes like BPH hitting on her. For sh1t n giggles…. And a PowerTrip!
Etc etc

 

[Sega Genesis]

that’s you. therefore projecting what other girls reason for going out to bars

Sure.

As I said meeting guys may not have been their intention for going, but good lord utilize common sense lol. If a girl or group of girls are going to a bar or club (for whatever reason), they're gonna get approached and hit on.

Please. Let's not be obtuse about this.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Right.... Like "___ men, men are ___" a loud and obnoxious "YEAH!" instead of trying to reason, argue sometimes instantly gets them rolling.

totally! C0cky and Cheeky all the way I say!

The word C0cky comes from the word ‘C0cksure’ meaning… ‘big d1ck energy.’ As the ladies would term it. That’s a pretty good quality to display imo/ime.

can work wonders tbh.
Love that response , agree and amplify
Shows balls and strength .

I’m reminded now of a few of Bobby Rios banter lines ( I rate BR)
BR -“so this a Girls Night Out hey ?”
Chick - “yeah”
BR - “so does that mean you didn’t shave your legs tonite?”
Chick - “whaaaaat , lololol “

great stuff….

IRL example of this - Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson. Big D1ck funny man Pete did pretty well for himself there! Nice seduction Pete, well done

 

[Cheeky_James]

Sure.

As I said meeting guys may not have been their intention for going, but good lord utilize common sense lol. If a girl or group of girls are going to a bar or club (for whatever reason), they're gonna get approached and hit on.

Please. Let's not be obtuse about this.

yes , and maybe they get a kick out rejecting said guys.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Questions aspiring PUAs May ask

Q- Is c0cky/funny effective ? Does it really work ?
A - there may be some evidence yes.



sure Pete Davidson was also in the celeb tier .
But compared to Kimmie Ks wealth, he was a relatively a pauper afaik.

All he had was some cute looks, his sharp wit and his big d1ck to back it up. good job Pete!
The SoSuave forum supports you!

 

[Velasco]

As I said meeting guys may not have been their intention for going, but good lord utilize common sense lol. If a girl or group of girls are going to a bar or club (for whatever reason), they're gonna get approached and hit on

no fvcking **** they’re gonna get approached. that’s not what we’re talking about are we? we’re talking about girls intentions for going out right? your intentions may have been to get a dude for the night. but that doesn’t mean because that’s ur intention, that’s every girls intention for going out. which include dancing with their friends.

for an example, one of my girls goes out with her friends every weekend. after she’s done dancing. she texts me and comes get fvcked. obviously she’s been hit on a million times. but those guys are all wasting their time because that’s not her intention for being there

 

[Sega Genesis]

@Velasco I understand your point, unfortunately you missed my point entirely. Which I don't have time to repeat so happy to leave it.

Said my piece. I'm out.

 

[BPH]

curious re the rejections - do you think you could have turned these “f-off vibes” around ? If you had some extra verbal Game skills?
Frame control stuff I’m thinking.,,hard banter stuff.
For me , if the chick gives me attitude it’s ’game On’ to engage in tryna break her down.

Not really. I understand some things are simply beyond my control.

I may not be her type. She may be having a bad night. Something/somebody might've put her in a bad mood. Hell, I've met girls who had reservations about me just because I had the same name as their ex.

Usually, an approach goes good or bad early; it's not something where I'll f*** it up midway through and think "Oh, I should've done that instead", because if she was interested enough, it wouldn't have mattered.

 

[Cheeky_James]

In my experience, women will often say these kinds of things as a screen. There's usually some ring of truth to it, she may actually be frustrated as all heck and is on a 'men stupid' kick and just wants to dance it off and reject would be suitors to prove to herself 'she's got it' or something. Be that as it may, she hardly needs to doll herself up and hit the town to accomplish this, she could just record herself in the driver's seat of her car and fake cry about it while dropping her socials for people to flood her inbox. lol

I catch flak for it, but I see what a woman says, especially in any introductory 'cold' phase as HR speak. They know whether a position is available or not and that the right candidate can be pushed in, but they'll either list insanely high barriers to entry, a lowball salary, or give some weird objections. Similar to getting a paper slid across a table that says "8k down, 586mo, 23% interest, 7 year note." You'd be surprised how many people sign it right away. Much like how quickly people buy into what a woman says she's doing. On one hand it should be glaringly obvious you're getting skrewed while the other for some reason wants to believe everyone will be as honest as we would like to think we are.

I've rarely moved in on anyone who doesn't show an insane amount of IOI's. That's just me. I like to nonverbally communicate that I know what she is doing and drive her insane. Most of the time they give up, but when they don't oh god is that fun! Hehehe. That, and I'm going to admit I'm a tad vain and love to be given IOIs.... Is what it is.

Wow. What a long winded and needlessly parabolic way of saying "I think both ya'll have a point."

fhats a fantastic analogy RR.
Bravo on that one. Class

 

[Cheeky_James]

Not really. I understand some things are simply beyond my control.

I may not be her type. She may be having a bad night. Something/somebody might've put her in a bad mood. Hell, I've met girls who had reservations about me just because I had the same name as their ex.

Usually, an approach goes good or bad early; it's not something where I'll f*** it up midway through and think "Oh, I should've done that instead", because if she was interested enough, it wouldn't have mattered.

yea ok… but as long as you understand what Roadking Rabbit says above also. Most of these objections are really BS.. they are Girl Game ‘Frames’/ narratives / sh1t tests (can be )

but when I approach a chick and she barks at me “F-off” .. that’s usually a hard NO./red light.

or slaps me.
Or whatever type of hard rejection
(I’ve actually had a drunk/high irish chick punch me in the face in a Druggy Club. (!) And she really socked it to me too dat B.. in response to a move I did .. that wasn’t even that bad, just cheeky)

 

[Cheeky_James]

Oh man.. I’m sooo digging out and posting pics of my old PUA days. Fvck it why not .. it’s been over 10 years and I’m giddy to show. Is that cool? Will I be doxxed here? It’s been a decade anyway .. and who else am I gonna show them to..Yknow?

Any White Knights on here that are gonna try and ‘bust’ me… is this an”safe space” here on SoSuave?
Or is there a better way to show off.. maybe a highlight reel video on YouTube perhaps idk.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

I think it hardly matters. That's what we're supposed to do. Post what we've done, what we've tried, what we've royally gone and effed.

Sometimes women are straight up with you, sometimes they are straight up with you in that exact second (subject to change the next second), and sometimes they just flat out don't want to overtly let you know what's going on for any number of reasons tied to psychology/ biology. It's not busted, just 'runs' different.

In many ways we likely appear 'busted' to women. Different hardware and software. But oooohhhh are we ever compatible! HE HE.

 

[nicksaiz65]

@Velasco @tksniper just gonna tag you both since you guys are saying the same thing, and to prevent a massive quote wall.

Here's the thing...

I've had so many great experiences, including same-night lays, from approaching women who didn't even know I was there before coming up to say hi.

Off the top of my head, both women I slept with during my week in Ocean City last year were hanging out with their girlfriends, watching the band perform in a crowded nightclub.

The girl I met in Philly last May or June was while passing her on the way to the bathroom.

These were not women who were eye-f***ing me from across the bar, or twirling their hair, or giving me eye contact and smiling - they didn't know I was there until I came up to them.

Ask @nicksaiz65 . In the time we spent working together, he slept with 3 different women within a month and a half. He wasn't "pre-selected" - most times, he was going out completely solo. He wasn't being thrown a bunch of obvious IOIs.

How did he do it? By cold approaching.

And yeah, you could argue that approaches are "warm" because she might've already decided you're attractive, or there's very little you could say wrong...BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO APPROACH HER.

She will not do it. That is the entirety of what I'm advocating for here...

Yeah, I’m a big cold approach advocate, and I do believe in the concept of a numbers game. I’m aware that some people don’t. But if other things work better for other people they should do it!