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Peep this video.

This is ARC giving a short, masterclass demo on his approach....and on what appears to be examples of his cold approaches.

Less than a 5 minute video.

I don't know what vid you are referring to, but this is legit to me.

This is some smooth stuff, and you all should watch this video, and learn something.

Mode One 4 Life!!!




Ok, so please enlighten me; based on male group consensus, what is a "hot" chick?



All that is required, is for those women to be great looking to him.

If I like pineapples on my pizza, why would/should I give a FUK whether Cheeky_James find my pizza appetizing?

WTH? That's some beta shiit (no offense to you).



I'm still waiting on you to describe what a "hot woman" looks like.



Yeah, but that creep to one woman, could be a "hot guy" to the next one.

Looks are subjective.



I certainly emphasize body game...and I am a gym-regular...lift heavy...tall, stocky build...and I get compliments on my phisique on a almost daily basis.

But truth be told, I had a chick who told her work acquaintance, that my phisique is too "big", and that's why she didn't want to pursue a romantic relationship with me.

Thus, my point.

As good as I think I look to the average woman, I understand that I'm not every woman's cup of tea.

But on the flip side, not every woman is my cup of tea either.

So hey.



:cool:



I don't do Online Dating...and haven't in over 15 years.

I know OLD is the way of the dating world now, but to me, it is beta.

I just simply like cold approaching...it provides such a sense of masculine fulfillment, that no other method provides.

Literally, as I am having sex with a woman, I reflect on the fact that I am in this puzzy, because of my own courageous and confident actions....something that OLD doesn't provide.
...
Ok. I revise my opinion. this is a great video.
He is a great dirty talker fer sure :up:

Move over Brent Smith. I may have just found a new Guru.:cool:
Watching another interview video of his early , before this one actually..below - and was nmh all through. So I guess I’ve changed my perspective since 12 years ago…


Btw do you know this interviewer? ;)

One thing about ARC I notice is the nice deep bassy voice.. I need dis.

And I’ve done a lot of voice work to try get it . But the improvements don’t ‘stick’ . Lotsa regular practice required.

Is there any verifiable Voice course that’ll give a substantial change to a dudes voice and add dat Bass? Apparently Morgan Freeman did this, and added a whole octave down to his voice (wow) .
So it must be possible.
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re online dating - I smashed 6 chicks off OLD the last two weeks. It’s pretty good.

did they all look like Amanda Rabbit tho ? No. Unfortunately.

Re what is a Hot Chick? To me it’s glamour girls. Hired guns.. iG chicks, OF chicks. Strippers, Porno Stars. Etc

real hard bodied/ stacked bodied, cute faced, super sexy b1tches. Basically.

I thought that was all guys opinion tbh.(?)

Or similar looking types IRL , who don’t work in the sex industry,
 
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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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Ok. I revise my opinion. this is a great video.
He is a great dirty talker fer sure :up:
That is his mojo.

I agree with him on almost everything...I'm just not big on the whole verbal seduction stuff, which is his bread & butter.

My emphasis is more on body game.

That aside, his philosophies will only resonate to certain guys...and I am one of them.

Move over Brent Smith. I may have just found a new Guru.:cool:
Watching another interview video of his early , before this one actually..below - and was nmh all through. So I guess I’ve changed my perspective since 12 years ago…
Fa sho.

You had also mentioned David X.

I'm not familiar with his work, but ARC stated that of all the dating coaches, David X's philosophies is the most similar to his.

What do you think?


Btw do you know this interviewer? ;)
I've seen that interview. I don't know the interviewer though.

One thing about ARC I notice is the nice deep bassy voice.. I need dis.

And I’ve done a lot of voice work to try get it . But the improvements don’t ‘stick’ . Lotsa regular practice required.

Is there any verifiable Voice course that’ll give a substantial change to a dudes voice and add dat Bass? Apparently Morgan Freeman did this, and added a whole octave down to his voice (wow) .
So it must be possible.
Bass? I find his voice to be raspy.

Re what is a Hot Chick? To me it’s glamour girls. Hired guns.. iG chicks, OF chicks. Strippers, Porno Stars. Etc

real hard bodied/ stacked bodied, cute faced, super sexy b1tches. Basically.

I thought that was all guys opinion tbh.(?)

Or similar looking types IRL , who don’t work in the sex industry,
I just like titties, bro.

All of that other shiit is for the birds.
 

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That is his mojo.

I agree with him on almost everything...I'm just not big on the whole verbal seduction stuff, which is his bread & butter.

My emphasis is more on body game.

That aside, his philosophies will only resonate to certain guys...and I am one of them.
I think verbal seduction is *very* necessary.
Imo there’s different types/personas of guys and different styles that go with each guy that work in combination, as a package .

For ‘big’ dudes with a gym rig, and especially with tattoos on top, they are “Protectors’ . Bad Boy Protectors / Tough Guys to women.

for guys like that, they bring the masculine dominance and safety with their physical frame/energy straight to the woman. So that’s 2 big ticks, for chicks.:D

then if they’re smart their verbal seduction game is the ‘Bubble Of Love. ‘

As per Scotty GLL. See this great infield.
I run a pretty much identical style to Scotty.
And look quite like him in the face also . Kinda look between him and Steve Jabba. So reasonably handsome/cute .

Except I don’t have a BadBoy rig or tatts.
so I have to up my Dom in my body language and my speech too get the same vibe across.

IRL examples - like, Real hot bodied women , say strippers for example,. Who do they hook up with ?
Big Alpha Protector Bad Boy dudes.

…cos they need the protection from all the nerdy creepy guys hitting on them. And cos he brings the Thrillz (and the party drugs too of course)

Fa sho.

You had also mentioned David X.

I'm not familiar with his work, but ARC stated that of all the dating coaches, David X's philosophies is the most similar to his.

What do you think?
Yeah David X is great. Again in retrospect.
I wasn’t sure 12 years ago about him,
But he is pretty Alpha, big construction worker , big voice , bigmouth, for sure worth listening to.
He used to advise his coaching students to read Romance Novels . Which I scoffed at back then.
But it’s the advice I’d give to all dudes today .
Great tip for understanding what turns women on.

I've seen that interview. I don't know the interviewer though.

Bass? I find his voice to be raspy.
Ah true I figured the interview might be you.
Just a hunch.

Nah it’s raspy on the top but pretty low register also. Black guy deep voice. =sexy. Barry White etc

Btw There’s courses that promise an ‘x’ frequency deepening of voice. I’ve tried a lot of courses but it’s a lot of work and exercise .
RSD Jeffys course The Resonator was not too bad. A lot of filler in it tho.

I just like titties, bro.

All of that other shiit is for the birds.
Haha. I like it all :p why limit yourself,?
 
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I think verbal seduction is *very* necessary.
Hey, if you have the ability to get a woman's puzzy wet based on your words/tone of voice...go for it :up:.

I'd rather hit the gym and become eye candy to women before I say one word to them.

It is truly a preference thing, and I don't knock verbal seduction...but it is too close to phone sex, which I NEVER was fond of.

Imo there’s different types/personas of guys and different styles that go with each guy that work in combination, as a package .

For ‘big’ dudes with a gym rig, and especially with tattoos on top, they are “Protectors’ . Bad Boy Protectors / Tough Guys to women.

for guys like that, they bring the masculine dominance and safety with their physical frame/energy straight to the woman. So that’s 2 big ticks, for chicks.:D

then if they’re smart their verbal seduction game is the ‘Bubble Of Love. ‘
I heard ARC's book "Ooo Say It Again" is all about verbal seduction, and how men can take their game to a whole nother level if they apply his techniques.

Give it a world.

As per Scotty GLL. See this great infield.
I run a pretty much identical style to Scotty.
And look quite like him in the face also . Kinda look between him and Steve Jabba. So reasonably handsome/cute .

Except I don’t have a BadBoy rig or tatts.
so I have to up my Dom in my body language and my speech too get the same vibe across.

IRL examples - like, Real hot bodied women , say strippers for example,. Who do they hook up with ?
Big Alpha Protector Bad Boy dudes.

…cos they need the protection from all the nerdy creepy guys hitting on them. And cos he brings the Thrillz (and the party drugs too of course)
:rofl:

Yeah David X is great. Again in retrospect.
I wasn’t sure 12 years ago about him,
But he is pretty Alpha, big construction worker , big voice , bigmouth, for sure worth listening to.
He used to advise his coaching students to read Romance Novels . Which I scoffed at back then.
But it’s the advice I’d give to all dudes today .
Great tip for understanding what turns women on.
Gotcha.

Ah true I figured the interview might be you.
Just a hunch.

Nah it’s raspy on the top but pretty low register also. Black guy deep voice. =sexy. Barry White etc

Btw There’s courses that promise an ‘x’ frequency deepening of voice. I’ve tried a lot of courses but it’s a lot of work and exercise .
RSD Jeffys course The Resonator was not too bad. A lot of filler in it tho.
Sounds like you are getting turned on by dude's voice. :confused:

Haha. I like it all :p why limit yourself,?
Because I only need one obsession lol.
 

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Hey, if you have the ability to get a woman's puzzy wet based on your words/tone of voice...go for it :up:.

I'd rather hit the gym and become eye candy to women before I say one word to them.

It is truly a preference thing, and I don't knock verbal seduction...but it is too close to phone sex, which I NEVER was fond of.
well.. yknow i got pretty smooth with the voice and verbals at one point . Back in the heyday of NightGame and as a practicing in field ‘PUA’.
Once, in a lounge bar . On a Thursday nite I turned a ch1ck on massively by running something akin to a Speed Seduction pattern.. a travel story..talking about..Tropical weather. How it’s so HOT and WET up there.. blah blah.
And did lots of sexy body language with it.

she took me home soon after and fvcked me very eagerly indeed. Porno style.

So it’s pretty fvcking powerful stuff , verbal seducfion (+ sexy body language )

Re Body Game.
Yeah . It is the biggest effect to buff up and smash the gym. I would move up a level in quality of chicks / hotter babes no doubts. Been putting it off far too long.

I’m in my 40s now tho.. so like 1-2 years probably of hard training/ lifting etc to get a Big Rig.
Big commitment. But it’s on my life goals list .

So I really should start. Has a *massive* effect afaics.

and plus, then text game becomes a piece of piss.
I’ve heard of BigRig/BadBoy & Chad guys just texting “DTF?” In online dating apps. And getting laid .thats the ultimate really hey.(?)

But re the body maxxing… I won’t grow TALLER from the Gym. So… that’s also a constraint. Idk.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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@Velasco @tksniper just gonna tag you both since you guys are saying the same thing, and to prevent a massive quote wall.

Here's the thing...

I've had so many great experiences, including same-night lays, from approaching women who didn't even know I was there before coming up to say hi.

Off the top of my head, both women I slept with during my week in Ocean City last year were hanging out with their girlfriends, watching the band perform in a crowded nightclub.

The girl I met in Philly last May or June was while passing her on the way to the bathroom.

These were not women who were eye-f***ing me from across the bar, or twirling their hair, or giving me eye contact and smiling - they didn't know I was there until I came up to them.

Ask @nicksaiz65 . In the time we spent working together, he slept with 3 different women within a month and a half. He wasn't "pre-selected" - most times, he was going out completely solo. He wasn't being thrown a bunch of obvious IOIs.

How did he do it? By cold approaching.

And yeah, you could argue that approaches are "warm" because she might've already decided you're attractive, or there's very little you could say wrong...BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO APPROACH HER.

She will not do it. That is the entirety of what I'm advocating for here...
You have the drive to be the greatest pickup artist guru I see. I mean, if that’s within your heart, then go for it. If you ever need anything, any advice, etc, I’m here for you brother. I’m not going to attempt to give you life advice. What’s in your heart is what is true for you. I know and I’ve been there. No one is going to be able to tell you anything else besides your passion.

And I’m not gong to patronize you and say you were born 10 years too late (at the height of the PUA world). Maybe you are what this generation needs.

Keep going my friend. You have no idea who you will inspire.
 
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In bars and clubs, for sure a guy has to approach , but could gauge interest by non verbals firstly to make it a warm approach. Eye contact, Waving , smiling , eye brow flashing etc etc and reading signals.
Or just by proximity and looking over the shoulder etc. then just any indirect excuse to start a convo.
Chicks know it’s a pickup. No need to state it out in the open off the bat imo.

(for bars and clubs, ime hot chicks will have attitude and play the “what’s ur status “ game.
And need to be broken down with verbal power frames firstly. - hard edgy banter. Then they can crack and be nicer ,)

But im wondering , in your DayGame approaches what’s your apporach -number -lay ratio like?
You’re a pretty good looking dude,
Ie approach 10 girls to get 5 numbers to get 1 lay.. On average/ roughly.

Cos I see threads of guys doing DG direct approach style, putting up massive numbers on forums to get 1 lay.
Like, hundreds of approaches.
Threads titled “what am I doing wrong?”
The smart answer being,..everything. Stop doing that, period.

seems not a great strategy for more average looking guys. The London DayGame/ beat the streets strategy… from the stats and the infields.
Idk.
 
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In bars and clubs, for sure a guy has to approach , but could gauge interest by non verbals firstly to make it a warm approach. Eye contact, Waving , smiling , eye brow flashing etc etc and reading signals.
Or just by proximity and looking over the shoulder etc. then just any indirect excuse to start a convo.
Chicks know it’s a pickup. No need to state it out in the open off the bat imo.
All those IOIs help, for sure, but they're not requirements.

The chick I referred to from Philly, when I met her, I was leaving the bathroom, while she was on her way to use it herself. I opened her, and we hit it off right then and there, and she told me she would be back to continue talking to me (which she did). I hadn't seen her in the bar before that point, and was actually planning to leave once I was done in the bathroom. Since I hadn't seen her (it wasn't too crowded), I doubt she had seen me.

I like being direct because even if SHE knows my intentions by approaching her, how she responds tells ME a lot about where her interest level is.

(for bars and clubs, ime hot chicks will have attitude and play the “what’s ur status “ game.
And need to be broken down with verbal power frames firstly. - hard edgy banter. Then they can crack and be nicer ,)
Sometimes, but I lead the conversation where I want it to go...whether she's single...who she's there with...does she come often...and so on. I don't turn it into an interview, and if she tries to make it into one, I'll briefly answer her question before responding, again, with where I want the conversation to go.

But im wondering , in your DayGame approaches what’s your apporach -number -lay ratio like?
You’re a pretty good looking dude,
Ie approach 10 girls to get 5 numbers to get 1 lay.. On average/ roughly.
I really have no clue. I'm not counting how many women I'm approaching before I meet the one I sleep with.

Daygame is fine, but I don't really see women in my day-to-day outside of the gym, so most approaches are done in bars or clubs, or on the street or something while moving between the two.

If I had to guess, your estimate is probably close. If I approach 10 women, I'll probably get 7 numbers, and at least 1 of those is likely to turn into a lay.

Cos I see threads of guys doing DG direct approach style, putting up massive numbers on forums to get 1 lay.
Like, hundreds of approaches.
Threads titled “what am I doing wrong?”
The smart answer being,..everything. Stop doing that, period.
A lot of people really don't know what they're doing, at all...

I'm not going to name names unless this person wants to identify themselves, but one of the guys I worked with would tell me what he was saying and how the conversation was going, and on paper, he wasn't doing anything glaringly wrong.

It wasn't until I had him show me how he was dressing and recording the approach audio so I could hear what he was saying that I realized why he was having such terrible results.

Many people will think they're doing a thing right, and not realize how wrong they are until you see the details, rather than just their recounting of the experience.
 

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The chick I referred to from Philly, when I met her, I was leaving the bathroom, while she was on her way to use it herself. I opened her, and we hit it off
@BPH correct me if I'm wrong but generally speaking don't women who go to bars/clubs expect to be approached? Isn't that why they're there?

I'm not into that scene anymore but when I was, that is why my friends and I went. To meet guys!

So in your sitch at the bar, IOIs are not needed as again women expect to be randomly approached, has this changed? It's been a few years since I stopped being interested in that scene.

Contrast to that when a man is out and about on any given day, I do think IOIs from a woman are important. Unless it's a spontaneous approach that transpired from a natural occurrence (like you're sitting next to each other on a train and naturally strike up a convo). For example

This just happened about an hour ago and is fresh in my mind. I was at Starbucks sitting at a table outside enjoying a latte. There was a very nice looking man, well put together, nice style around 40ish I wouid say (we didn't ask ages - I find it strange to ask that question during initial approach but whatever) sitting at the next table facing me.

We made eye contact and *I* smiled first. Not a huge gaping smile but rather subtle but he got the message. HE smiled back and we spent the next 5 minutes basically eye fu*cking each other! 100% true story.

He then approached and casually said "I just had to come over and say hi." He said nothing about my appearance (thank god) like "you're so gorgeous, pretty whatever." To ME it sounds so "pick-upish" (and cheesy) and I dislike it.

I honestly don't need that type of validation; obviously since he smiled back and approached me he finds me attractive NO need to announce it.

Anyway my point (as in a previous post) is that had I not smiled first and given that IOI, it's questionable whether he would have approached.

Nor would I have wanted him to!

A girl who finds a man attractive and open to him approaching at that particular time will let him know IME. However subtly.
 
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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All those IOIs help, for sure, but they're not requirements.

The chick I referred to from Philly, when I met her, I was leaving the bathroom, while she was on her way to use it herself. I opened her, and we hit it off right then and there, and she told me she would be back to continue talking to me (which she did). I hadn't seen her in the bar before that point, and was actually planning to leave once I was done in the bathroom. Since I hadn't seen her (it wasn't too crowded), I doubt she had seen me.

I like being direct because even if SHE knows my intentions by approaching her, how she responds tells ME a lot about where her interest level is.



Sometimes, but I lead the conversation where I want it to go...whether she's single...who she's there with...does she come often...and so on. I don't turn it into an interview, and if she tries to make it into one, I'll briefly answer her question before responding, again, with where I want the conversation to go.



I really have no clue. I'm not counting how many women I'm approaching before I meet the one I sleep with.

Daygame is fine, but I don't really see women in my day-to-day outside of the gym, so most approaches are done in bars or clubs, or on the street or something while moving between the two.

If I had to guess, your estimate is probably close. If I approach 10 women, I'll probably get 7 numbers, and at least 1 of those is likely to turn into a lay.



A lot of people really don't know what they're doing, at all...

I'm not going to name names unless this person wants to identify themselves, but one of the guys I worked with would tell me what he was saying and how the conversation was going, and on paper, he wasn't doing anything glaringly wrong.

It wasn't until I had him show me how he was dressing and recording the approach audio so I could hear what he was saying that I realized why he was having such terrible results.

Many people will think they're doing a thing right, and not realize how wrong they are until you see the details, rather than just their recounting of the experience.
Sounds like it works. Would be great to hear some infield audio of you in action or start a YouTube channel maybe w same. May get you more clients too.

I’ve been thinking of doing rhis.. a YT channel or somesuch .. but the problem to me is , it’s like an undercover cop wearing a wire. As soon as I’d be aware I’m recording , I’d be conscious of that and then that in itself would affect and mess up my relaxed state and flow in the interaction.

I’ve done it here and there tho w my phone (sneaky sneaky) .. must find and upload to Soundcloud.
I like SC - files can be set to non downloadable so more secure …ish. Idk.

as an aside re this -I don’t rate most infield footage I see on YT , it all seems staged to me ..that show ‘KeysToTheVIP ‘ had fhe best examples of natural ,fun pickups in a bar /clubs imo. Especially a dude named ‘Rob The Italian’ ..he was great!

the pua Cajun did pretty well too with his method acting stuff…
 

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@BPH correct me if I'm wrong but generally speaking don't women who go to bars/clubs expect to be approached? Isn't that why they're there?
You tell me.

I've both gone out with girls and met girls at these places who were simply there to be with their friends, dance, celebrate some special occasion, and post about how much fun they're having on Instagram.

The reason why I tend to go out so late is that it acts as a filter for these women, as I understand the ones who are there later have decided that this is their final destination for the night, and they're open to meeting men.

Fire up Instagram. Women will get dressed to the 9s to go to some fancy restaurant bar, or a VIP section behind a DJ, just to enjoy the free drinks and post about it online.

Anyway my point (as in a previous post) is that had I not smiled first and given that IOI, it's questionable whether he would have approached.

Nor would I have wanted him to!
That's fine.

I would rather find out whether a woman is interested in me than wait for signs that she is. It would be like if you only sold a product to people who are already asking for it, rather than marketing it and seeing who else might be swayed.

Sounds like it works. Would be great to hear some infield audio of you in action or start a YouTube channel maybe w same. May get you more clients too.
It's a thought, for sure. The guy I'm working with who scales dating/relationship/marriage coaches encourages guys to do approaches with the Meta glasses, for example.

I'm not sure that'd be great though...people tend to behave differently when they know they're being recorded, and I think that fact is pretty obvious when you're wearing big, ugly shades with a camera lens in front of each arm...

I've also had people find my content, and I'm sure it's affecting outcomes with certain women (the one who ghosted me the same day after being super enthusiastic that I approached at my gym potentially comes to mind). Old co-workers have found it, cousins have found it. It's not hard to find, but if a woman sees that I'm a dating coach without actually watching any of the content to hear how I present my message, they might form a negative opinion just based off that.
 
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You tell me.

I've both gone out with girls and met girls at these places who were simply there to be with their friends, dance, celebrate some special occasion, and post about how much fun they're having on Instagram.
I already told you, I don't go to bars anymore but when I did (with friends) we went to meet guys.

A night out with a girlfriend(s) would be at a sit-down restaurant where we could talk amongst ourselves... not a bar or club with guys approaching and hitting on us.

Seeme like common sense to me.

I never went to a club to dance with my girlfriends. Seems odd and jmo but I think these women you meet are there to meet men despite what they want you to believe.

So cold approaching in that environment is not a turn off.
 
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well. I’m just here chilling on mah couch , watching steaming ,catching up on MAFS* and getting into a deep chill.
my friend dropped me off a box of champagne he didn’t want .. and a big box of strawberries too. He’s a good friend hey.
(Not sure what I’m gonna do with all that)

HBU SG? what are you up to tonite…

do you like to watch streaming ..

and do you also like to chill (cute emoji, wink emoji)

——————-

That’s how I do it SG ! :rofl:
Just set it all up , be cheeky and funny , make it an attractive scenario and put the offer on the table indirectly.

Ps MAFS = Married At First Sight , a chicky trash tv show about 90% of the female population are addicted to in my country. Always gets a lol from chicks when I mention I watch it. ( I dip in and out of it in reality, to get some material for banter ..)
;)

soooo…. Are you coming over orrrrr (cute emoji)
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You asked:


And I answered, basically saying that just because these women are out at bars does not mean they're there to meet guys.
yep , correct. There’s only a % of them looking to get laid . The rest can be there for many reasons including showing off , girls nites out , general flexing of the flirt muscles and validation reasons.
Alcohol helps swing them towards getting laid tho.
Alcohol was a good friend of mine in pickups.

Strange to me it’s not mentioned much on pickup forums as a factor tbh .. but anyways…
 
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And I answered, basically saying that just because these women are out at bars does not mean they're there to meet guys.
Perhaps not specifically but they'd have to be a bit slow or naive to not believe there is a very strong likelihood they will get hit on. Like hello! :p

So my opinion stands and as such IOIs are not needed at such establishments.

Also BPH as you yourself know (and without knowing anything about your in-person energy and presence) you are better looking than the average man.

So when YOU cold approach even in non-bar environments, women are going to be responsive to YOU. You have to know that! C'mon..

So the advice you give about cold approaching in non-bar environments may not apply to the average man whereas him paying attention to IOIs however subtle might be better advice imo (as a woman).

In fact cold approaching random women could very well work against him and as such he feels shot down and deflated. Lowering his already shaky self-esteem. .

I can already see that beginning to happen with @Plinco unfortunately who is now questioning his own attractiveness.:(
 
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It's a thought, for sure. The guy I'm working with who scales dating/relationship/marriage coaches encourages guys to do approaches with the Meta glasses, for example.

I'm not sure that'd be great though...people tend to behave differently when they know they're being recorded, and I think that fact is pretty obvious when you're wearing big, ugly shades with a camera lens in front of each arm...

I've also had people find my content, and I'm sure it's affecting outcomes with certain women (the one who ghosted me the same day after being super enthusiastic that I approached at my gym potentially comes to mind). Old co-workers have found it, cousins have found it. It's not hard to find, but if a woman sees that I'm a dating coach without actually watching any of the content to hear how I present my message, they might form a negative opinion just based off that.
yeah not sure about the Meta Glasses / video recording myself tbh. It’s very risky w legal implications. (So is audio tbh same same )
Not sure how these YT coaches get away w posting video infield at all tbh. It’s breach of privacy laws I would have thought. Hence I assume most of it is staged w models /actresses.
All the participants in that Keys show had to sign agreements to be filmed afaik. For example.

you have content ?? Pm me a link if you can . Defs wanna check it out.

And yes a chick knowing your a dating coach for sure forms a strong opinion her side and usually a negative one I’d presume.
 

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Perhaps not specifically but they'd have to a bit slow or naive to not believe there is a very strong possibility they will get hit on. Like hello! :p
You're preaching to the choir. More than a handful of times, I've seen gorgeous women at the bar just rejecting men.

One time, I actually got one of these girls' phone numbers after I'd seen her reject a bunch of guys, and she wasn't sure whether to give it out because she said she "kinda just hates men". As you might've guessed, it never went further than a short text conversation.

Also BPH as you yourself know (and without knowing anything about your in-person energy and presence) you are better looking than the average man.

So when YOU cold approach even in non-bar environments, women are going to be responsive to YOU. You have to know that! C'mon..
I get blown out of the water a ton. If I wrote up a report for every rejection, I'd have 5 times as many as I have lay reports, at least.

Not long ago, I went up to a girl and was very polite and respectful, but when I asked her her name, she said "it doesn't matter" and turned away to get back to her friends.

So the advice you give about cold approaching in non-bar environments may not apply to the average man whereas him paying attention to IOIs however subtle might be better advice imo (as a woman).

In fact cold approaching random women could very well work against him and as such he feels shot down and deflated. Lowering his already shaky self-esteem. .
The advice I would give to such a person is this:
  1. Improve as a man so you become the guy who DOES get attention from women
  2. Stop being a pu**y - if it were easy to approach and seduce women, every guy would be doing it. Instead, something like 25-33% of men in my age bracket haven't had sex in the last year
you have content ?? Pm me a link if you can . Defs wanna check it out.
I do, but I've been fiddling with the format. Right now, it's just me talking to the camera, reacting to good/bad dating advice I find online.

Bryce Preston Hayes on IG/YT/TikTok.
 

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One time, I actually got one of these girls' phone numbers after I'd seen her reject a bunch of guys, and she wasn't sure whether to give it out because she said she "kinda just hates men". As you might've guessed, it never went further than a short text conversation.
She "kinda hates men" but yet she's out at a bar/club surrounded by um... men? Some women are so full of ****. Lmao :rofl:

But okay fair enough as I said it's been awhile since I did the bar/club thing.
 
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