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About half my first dates have led to further meetings. I'm curious what you are experiencing and if I need to tweak my first date conversations to improve my chances of the second. A benchmark if you will
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I have no idea how anyone gets remotely close to a 50% or 80% 2nd date rate. Lifetime, mine has been closer to 10%-15%. Way too many "one date, no sex, no second date" type dates from websites and swipe apps. I did book an impressive volume of dates in earlier eras when swipe apps were a little easier but they've never been easy. In the website era, when OkCupid, PlentyofFish and Match were bigger, if I sent out enough messages, I could arrange enough dates. It was getting to nearly the point of spamming, though I had some selectivity.If considering the entirety of my lifetime, well under that 50%.
You aren’t properly screening for interest.I have no idea how anyone gets remotely close to a 50% or 80% 2nd date rate. Lifetime, mine has been closer to 10%-15%.
That's a fair point. I was unable to effectively screen for interest behind an electronic screen, which is why I exited those options. I have a better chance of screening for that through initial in-person means.You aren’t properly screening for interest.
For clarity, I think the metric the OP was using was simply the first date to second date, not what percentage of second dates offered are accepted.My second date percentage was about 80%. A lot of this is recognizing chemistry. If she wasn’t highly interested I would delete her number immediately after the date. No need to even offer a second date.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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Lol was there a reason to invert the percentages?I'd say maybe 10-20% depending on various factors. When I am in great shape it's closer to 20 or even 25. When I am in my worst shape, closer to 10%. When I am in between it's somewhere between those two.
I am strictly talking about when I want to see them again and they choose not to, not ones I am not interested in seeing again.
What do you mean?Lol was there a reason to invert the percentages?
1st dates from OLD sites and apps will have a much lower success rate of leading to 2nd/further dates compared to women that you've met in person. Ghosting, flaking, etc. will be fairly common place even before ever meeting in person.I have no idea how anyone gets remotely close to a 50% or 80% 2nd date rate. Lifetime, mine has been closer to 10%-15%. Way too many "one date, no sex, no second date" type dates from websites and swipe apps. I did book an impressive volume of dates in earlier eras when swipe apps were a little easier but they've never been easy. In the website era, when OkCupid, PlentyofFish and Match were bigger, if I sent out enough messages, I could arrange enough dates. It was getting to nearly the point of spamming, though I had some selectivity.
I didn't offer a 2nd date in some cases. There were times I didn't offer because while I was still interested to a degree, I doubted it would be accepted. Sometimes, I didn't offer because I had no interest whatsoever. That also lowered my 2nd date. In most of the times where I didn't get second dates, I was still interested in a 2nd date and offered one, only to be rejected or ghosted/flaked on.
Rates of getting 2nd dates have improved in recent years but still noweher near the rates other posters mentioned.