"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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how often do you call a gf?

rocco

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this is sort of a relationship question..

how often should a guy call a gf? I mostly call people when I want to hangout, but my gf likes to talk on the phone a lot. how often should i call?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Girls are different; and a g/f in particular may be glued to the phone (if you two live farther than a few minutes drive away). She may want to talk on the phone every day just to hear about how your day went, and talk about her issues, thoughts, feelings.

If you want the relationship, you're going to have to get used to talking on the phone- make it fun, if you're doing it right (and have an interesting girl), time spent talking on the phone will seem like nothing.
 

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I talk to my girl every day. Sometimes I call, sometimes she calls

why does it matter?
 

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i dunno, maybe im still getting used to the whole new relationship thing.. ive improved on attracting more women, getting laid more often these days.. all that pua stuff.. but after that.. it seems like the pua community dont cover that as much ..
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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whats your definition of a relationship?

is it a girl you're exclusive with, a girl you're seeing, an f-buddy?
 

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I talk to my gilfriend over AIM almost every day. It's nice because you can do other things on the computer while you talk, and a 10 minute phone conversation can stretch out to about 40 minutes over the internet. A lot easier to keep things fun and interesting that way.

As far as phone calls go, I generally don't call except for really important stuff or when I'm completely wasted... I'm almost guaranteed to give her a drunk dial right before I pass out.
 

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ready123 said:
whats your definition of a relationship?

is it a girl you're exclusive with, a girl you're seeing, an f-buddy?
with her its semi-exclusive.. like that's where the direction is headed, although i think we both have been seeing other people, atleast I know I have been.
 

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DoctorLW said:
I talk to my gilfriend over AIM almost every day. It's nice because you can do other things on the computer while you talk, and a 10 minute phone conversation can stretch out to about 40 minutes over the internet. A lot easier to keep things fun and interesting that way.

As far as phone calls go, I generally don't call except for really important stuff or when I'm completely wasted... I'm almost guaranteed to give her a drunk dial right before I pass out.
that sounds cool thing you got going there
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I generally tend to call every 3 days or so. If they complain a little, good. That just means they want you. If they complain a lot, call a little more. Not too much or you are too easy to attain. When the relationship escalates to something exclusive, move to calling her a little more frequently, but no more than she calls you.
 

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rocco said:
with her its semi-exclusive.. like that's where the direction is headed, although i think we both have been seeing other people, atleast I know I have been.
I hope you haven't got thinking onto the LTR track just yet. If she is still seeing other people, you're in a bad zone. Unless she has popped the question to you and you shot her down, she's not interested enough to date you if she can't dedicate herself to just you. Once she starts doing this, then consider a relationship. I don't care if you're hooking up with other women too.. if she really does like you she will either pop the question or stop hooking up with others.

As for phone calls to the GF? Some guys on the board will tell you 4 - 5 times a week MAX. I somewhat disagree.. I've talked to my girlfriends everyday. What's more important than amount of calls is who makes the call and what the conversation consists off. Make sure phone calls don't get boring.. keep them fresh and new if you're going to be talking everyday. Let her call you more than you call her. As a man, I don't require to hear my woman's voice everyday, but she may require to hear yours. Let her request it from you.
 

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Don't talk on the phone for a long time and all the time. It gets old and boring. She should be the one calling you most the time. That shows her interest level in her. My girlfriend calls or sends a text msg to me everyday I don't have to call her.
 

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rocco said:
this is sort of a relationship question..

how often should a guy call a gf? I mostly call people when I want to hangout, but my gf likes to talk on the phone a lot. how often should i call?
let her call you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I dont call mine unless im coming to pick her up or something. Never called her before just to chat.

But then again I usually get a chance to see her at school every day.
 
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