"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How Often Do Girls Approach You?

kody_starr

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OK, this is a slightly different question. How often do girls actually walk up to you, and either touch you or start a conversation with you? Or, walk up to you with talking or touching you, but make it clear that she absolutely wants you to talk to her? This is different from an IOI in that she has taken the initiative to open you instead.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Lexington

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It's actually not an all that uncommon for me. Believe me, I was such a massive AFC that the only way I could ever get with girls was with them approaching me. Sometimes, they threw me every cue and every IOI in the book and I was still afraid to approach! There was one girl that was interested in me in high school and her friends had to basically force me to ask her out.

By the way, I'm not a particularly good looking guy. I'm short, with a decent face and decent dress sense.

Nowadays, if a girl initiates with me I read that as strong interest and I get after her. In fact, regardless of whether I get IOIs or not, I just keep trying to escalate and "make the ho say no."

So definitely if a girl approaches you.....get after her. She's made your job that much easier, take advantage of it. I sometimes want to kick myself when I think back to my AFC days and all the girls that approached me. I was such a chickensh*t that I blew all those chances.
 

King Turi

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I still get chicks coming up to me all the time as opposed to me going after them, been this way my whole life, which is in a sense why I'm here.

Because I need to be able to get what I want, not just take what's given to me, and well I basically do that already, all it took was a little reading of some IOI's and a bit of ego boosting and now I'm basically where I wanted to be.

But yeah, chicks still come up to me all the time, but thing is I got something they can come and comment on as an ice breaker, I can sing, so when they here me sing whether it's at like karaoke or a acoustic night or a jam night or whatever, they are able to come and start a conversation by saying I have a great voice.

I'd look like a **** if I went over to some chicks and "I got a great voice, don't I?".
Well actually I've done that before and it worked out decently, but I'd had a couple of drinks by that time, and that was the only time I've ever gone out and drunk alcohol, usually a non-drinker.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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MisterMcGee

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I get looked at, checked out, etc. Sometimes approached but I'm usually too busy or preoccupied to either follow up or realize the IOI in the first place.
I chalk it up as a confidence booster on my part. It's good to feel attractive and such, even if you dont close on the ones thatre checking you out.
 

Sir_Turtle

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It happens, I usually do everything i can to encourage it. It's mostly passive game. Simply being friendly and available so that they let you know by IOI's when they're ready for you to approach.

This works especially well when "gaming," although i hate to call it that, girls of the religious variety. Since they generally like to be in a state of worship for you before they deem you worthy of approaching them.
 

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To answer your other question...I get lots of IOIs, but as to girls approaching and actually starting a conversation from scratch without first meeting almost never.

Good looking girls coming up and standing very close to me in a book store, waiting to cross the street, or shopping very often.

Girls that “accidentally” brush their breasts against my arm as they walk past in a crowded pub or nightclub, very common. The “stand next to girls” are usually very good looking, the breast girls in crowded pubs not so, but hey they still make me smile.

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Rarely. It hasn't happened to me for a long time. The few times it did happen, I was always too stupid to take advantage.
 

Obameros

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I get signals all the time, but rarely does a chick just come up to me randomly looking to score. I've noticed that they'll do anything they can BUT make the initial move.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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ALPHAROMEO

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they are programmed not to it s deep seated in their psyche

i woudn t want to be picked up by a chick

i like chasing or hunting and bring my trophy home like a cat a fieldmouse

the chase is 80 PER CENT of the fun call it machism if you want



fun in negging her in using C/F stuff fun in getting her digits

PICKING UP CHICKS is the last frontier!!!
once u ve achieved that you are the master of your life and the universe:crackup: !!!!!!
 

cola

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Once in a blue moon but it does happen.. when it does its usually a coworker or a female from my social circle. I have however had females tell me they find my looks attractive..
 

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It's happened before. Usually it is just major hints, like coming up and asking me an innocent question in a too-friendly way.
 

speakeasy

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seagull said:
Rarely. It hasn't happened to me for a long time. The few times it did happen, I was always too stupid to take advantage.
Same here. It happened in high school and junior high but I was too shy and incompetent at the time to take advantage of it. Now at age 33, it virtually never happens, even though I've been told I'm a nice looking guy, decent sense of style, in decent shape and all that stuff.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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