"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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1. Do not buy a girl you are pursuing flowers

2. Don't send your gf the one who wants to break up with you flowers or jewlery

3. Do not tell them how you feel about them

4. Do not ass kiss them and tell them how greaat they are and they are the best thing that ever happened to you

5. Don't ever, ever tell your GF you love her first

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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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6. Have a separate, dependable life from any girl(s) that you can escape to.

(Great idea btw)
 
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7. Do not repeatedly call or text/email/IM/a girl.

8. Do not fall for a girl before you have had sex with her, and be careful even if you had.

9. Be very careful of what details of your life you share with a girl, if any.
 
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10. Don't put your GF over your own interests. You come first.

11. Stand by what you say, and don't be sorry for anything.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What's so funny about this site is the people giving advice are the ones who have no experience with women.

I've searched the names of the guys in this thread, and some of the posts I've found are:

"I got past kino, now what?"

"Do girls not like guys with baggy jeans?"

and my favorite "I'm a cool guy, I play the trumpet."

You think I'm gonna take advice from you idiots? lol, kiss my ass

The people in this forum are brainwashed. Don't send a girl flowers? Don't tell her how you feel? Don't tell her you love her first? If that was solid advice, there wouldn't be many relationships in the world, if any. You people are so far out of reality it's pathetic.

The guys in here have that ideology about women because they're vulnerable and it's what they've been told.
All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
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Who said that you ask? Hitler. This is exactly how he convinced millions to follow him. Think it's funny? It's no different than what's going on in this forum.
 
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14. Don't listen to Snowman23.
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I second that. What a troll. Only an AFC would have said the things that snowman23 said. What an AFC.
 
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Right. Let's all listen to people who don't know how to get past kino, and think they're cool because they play a musical instrument.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Snowman82, no one here has any need to validate themselves to you. If you just want to pick on guys that have questions and flame those that might have something constructive to contribute then leave. Getting off by putting down other guys is typical AFC and Beta behavior.

15. Be constructive, open minded and willing to work toward your goals.
 
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16. Always spin more than one plate

Snowman23 said:
and my favorite "I'm a cool guy, I play the trumpet."
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You're just jealous because I'm a trumpet player :p
 
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oldschooler said:
Guys everything here are pure guide lines, your all following it like a ****ing bible commandment.
I have enough real world experience to know how to game, half the **** on this forum is exactly that ****, aimed at the "AFC's"
Step into reality and break away from this, it means nothing real world experience is everything.
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This is Sosuave. Home of the KBJs and AFCs.

I agree with what you posted though.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ratisson said:
I second that. What a troll. Only an AFC would have said the things that snowman23 said. What an AFC.
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HAHAHA, you guys are clueless. I've read a lot of good posts from Snowman. I completely respect the guy. Most of these rules are right, but he's right, a lot of guys on here give advice even though they have little, if any, experience. Anymore, it seems like the only quality stuff I read comes from the DJ Bible.
 
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Baruch said:
1. Do not buy a girl you are pursuing flowers
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Yes, don’t buy her flowers, pick wild ones, or if you have artistic talents, draw her one.

3. Do not tell them how you feel about them
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This only applies if you are obviously out of your league and you were just a novelty for her to play with. Once you start telling her that you actually like her it’s like ewww ickkk. However, if the girl is really into you and you’re into her and you have the wherewithal to see the reality of it, telling her how you feel will actually increase her affections for you.
 
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