"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How much time do you spend on the phone with girls?

speakeasy

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Do you make your conversations quick and to the point and get off? Of do you sit there on the phone talking for long periods of time? What about those of you that really like a girl, do you have long phone talks or do you believe in saving your long talks for when you are face to face?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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speakeasy said:
Do you make your conversations quick and to the point and get off? Of do you sit there on the phone talking for long periods of time? What about those of you that really like a girl, do you have long phone talks or do you believe in saving your long talks for when you are face to face?
As a guy we tend to use the phone as a tool for information so talking to girls or friends, I spend 30 seconds to 3 minutes on the phone and wait to I see them in person for long talks. It's not some DJ rule that I strictly follow, it's what I have been doing. I think the lognest I have ever talked on the phone was 10 minutes.

I would say save long talks for face to face, that way you can show off body language, do kino, make eye contact, smile.
 

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THE LONGER the time on the phone the more likely to say something lame.

The problem is you start to develope virtual romance that is still two dimensional. Phones are best to set up dates, say hello, etc.

Conversation is for face to face. Increasing the phone call frequncy and time intervals is relationship material.

time spent on phone should be time spent face to face.

A phone is a tool, like the computer(I.m's, pics, emails) use it for setting up dates. If you need a friend call a friend, but if you want sex, keep phone calls to a minimum.
 

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I hate phones. I got my cell phone bill last month, all and I all I spent a little less than 150 mintues on the phone. I get house phone calls but still the same. unless you are calling to see if you can come over, an emergency or I am calling to get you to come over or go out, I have no reason or time to talk to you
 

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Chatting away on a cellphone is like IM'ing and texting and MySpace rubbish.

It's for chicks.

If Mrs. K or li'l K need to talk to me about something it's short and sweet. It's my rule and unbreakable. Even at work, it's A-B-C. Get to the fvcking point and be done. You'll be surprised how the respect factor shoots through the roof when you're congruent enough to stand your ground and swat away lame bullsh!t.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Willis

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what everybody is saying is tru but, when u have a girlfriend that calls u everyday thats different
 

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Willis said:
what everybody is saying is tru but, when u have a girlfriend that calls u everyday thats different
Exactly.

If you are calling a girl that you just met you need to make the conversation as brief as possible, remember you call to make a date you never do that in person.

When it's your girlfriend it is a whole other story. I even try not to talk that much with my girlfriends, I rather say what I have to in person. If I didn't need my mobile for work I would throw it out the window. :whistle:
 
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