How much more different would things be if there was a male birth control pill?

[El Payaso]

How different would relationships and the dating game be?

 

[logicallefty]

Wealthier men.

 

[marmel75]

There is, it's called exogenous testosterone. 99% effective, highest known success rate there is. Not a pill, it's a shot

 

[Asmodeus]

Yeah, there must be some reason why they have not come out with one. I do not want to say conspiracy, but it seems very strange. I am not a doctor, but I am well read and I do not understand how it could be so hard to produce a simple device that simply constricts the Vas Deferens? I mean, it seems like it would only require minor surgery to simply clamp two small tubes in the testis. Or perhaps something that blocks one of the multitude of factors involved in spermatogenesis. In fact I thought I heard of some hormone treatment that made men infertile for a period of time.... Feminists from what I have seen are opposed to the pill, but I cannot imagine they have THAT much sway.

But it would change the game for men, completely. Currently almost all of the power lies in the woman's hands. Pregnancy is just as treacherous for men as it is for women. Of course men do not give actual birth, but they are held responsible for the child just as much as the woman, hence things like child support. There

Currently women have... Intrauterine devices, implants, rings, shots, patches, pills, and all kinds of things. I am not even considering abortion, plan B, and other options.
And men have what for contraceptives... just condoms?

Unlike a woman, a man has no ability to control his own fertility. Reproductive rights are denied to men. Male birth control would be a great equalizer, giving freedom to men.

 

[wifehunter]

it's a shot

Great! I hope it's like vodka, so I can make martinis! LOL!!!

 

[Asmodeus]

We also need to think about other things here too... Not just from the scope of the man who is forced to be the father even if he does not want to, or if he was tricked into paternity. A move toward reproductive equality is good and ethically fair... But also think about these other implications:
There are over 150,000 children in America waiting for adoption. It is a burden on our system, and reducing that would have a positive effect. It would reduce abortions greatly, and thus less moral outrage. Also single parent households are EVERYWHERE and they mostly tend to be a financial burden on the state as single parent households tend to have higher levels of government assistance (strong correlation). It can help manage overpopulation, even if by a small degree. And those are just a few off of the top of my head...

Edit: even with a male pill out I will still use condoms though. And I suggest most men do too. I had got chlamydia before and thankfully it was one of those STDs that is easily cured. I am not ever going without the rubber again. I think I just need to stay away from them slvts they are bad for my health.

 

[YawataNoKami]

Male contraceptives are nothing more than a Patriarchal plot for those evil menz to get more sex! Imagine all those poor princesses having to have sex repeatedly with these cretins without knowing he has secretly taken an injection to thwart the process.

Month after month women will be subject to the most vile actions in hopes that they will be able to experience the gift of motherhood. Oh the horror!

 

[logicallefty]

Male contraceptives are nothing more than a Patriarchal plot for those evil menz to get more sex! Imagine all those poor princesses having to have sex repeatedly with these cretins without knowing he has secretly taken an injection to thwart the process.

Month after month women will be subject to the most vile actions in hopes that they will be able to experience the gift of motherhood. Oh the horror!

My late step dad died a year ago at 81. He was alpha that got lots of tail prior to marring my mom. He told a story from around 1983 where he was between his first wife and my mom, the VP of a major battery company, single, around 50 years old, and hitting 20s b|tches hard. There was this 20something chick in his circle of friends who everyone know was trying to sleep around, get preggo, and find a sugar daddy. My step dad played dump on purpose and got in her pants. He said after he blew his load in her she made some comment about not using protection and a fake "uh oh I hope I don't get pregnant". But that was her goal and he knew it. He said he responded "well I am so glad to ease your worries, I had a vasectomy a few months ago.. When can we do this again?" He said she got huffing p|ssed, got dressed, and stormed out.. And he sat there and laughed right in her face.... I think he also said after that she no longer associated with the group of friends they were in.. LMFAO. RIP you old horny bastard!!

 

[Stugots26]

One of the most enjoyable ways to rile up a feminist is to discuss the merits of a male birth control pill.

The underlying reason why women have always hated "game," hated PUAs, hated the independent transition of men from betas to alphas...has been that women want to be the only ones to choose who to sleep with. They want to be able to discern the alpha sh!tlords who they can have fun with from the beta providers who they can fawn alpha offspring on for support. Any attempt by men to assert their own choice and remove women from the pedestal is "misogyny."

Another related discussion worth having is the merits of mandatory state-sanctioned paternity testing at birth. Then sit back and watch the hamster go nuclear.

Something all men who want autonomy in life should consider, if they want to have kids, is seeking out an egg donor and surrogacy. Remove a woman's last trump card - her uterus - and have kids on your own terms.