How much do ethnicity play a part in the dating game?

[California Love]

Entropy don't try to skew the info around. I made those last two quotes, and I am not Black either.

 

[Mercenary]

Originally posted by Seks Appeal


I will try to explain...

In the above example, BOTH the white man and the black man have swallowed the pill that white is superior to black. That is why the white dude doesn't date black and the "self-hating" black also doesn't date black. Both are racists.

This makes no sense in 2004.
People are not bound by history.
I was never a slave master, never a proponent of segregation... **** I wasn't even alive during the time. So to say that I'm a racist makes no sense. The same goes for young blacks today, they were never slaves or victims of civil rights attrocities.

You're analysis is dated and again incomplete. You say that blacks who don't date other blacks "self hate". The Afrocentrism prevalent in the early 90's refutes your statements fully. And again, how can you purport to know the psyche of "all whte and black people". It's arrogant of you, amusing, and just incorrect.

If it's a truism that white is superior to black in the minds of people in our country, then why do white kids in wisconsin want to be black in 2004?
That certainly wasn't the case in 1960 when your argument had some truth to it.

 

[jakethasnake]

Originally posted by Skweints
It's funny how everybody makes all these general statements concerning races and how it should be broken down at the individual level.

Jakethasnake, no disrespect man, but you've got to be a born and raise Asian American (hence, your limitations in describe ONLY using words Asian, White and Black).

Rubbish. I've been here long enough - if you talked to me on the phone without knowing my background, you would think I was a goddamn whiteboy. Trust me on this - I am well acculturated, and fully and intricately understand the issues that the Asian American community deals with.

Originally posted by Skweints

I'm a White American, I try to be as open-minded as possible. I like to give everybody a chance, regardless of what race they are. Spending a year out here in Okinawa, I've learned QUITE A BIT about Okinawans, Japanese (yes, Okinawans ARE different from Japanese), Filipinos, Thai, etc. They are ALL different in their little ways.

I find it very funny that you've managed to go to ALL THE ASIAN NATIONS THAT ARE REKNOWNED AMONGST WH0RE-MONGERS FOR HAVING A HUGE, COMMERCIALIZED SEX TRADE.


I'm beginning to see a pattern here - typcial Asian-fetishizing white guy who thinks by spending his off-duty or vacation time in Asian redlight districts and talking to bargirls, he gets a super-detailed insight into Asian culture, dating habits, values, etc. It's pretty obvious to me that you're also in the US military, because of your age (20), and the fact that you're an American in OKINAWA. Almost no civilian American has any business being there, unless he/she is family of servicemen. When I was in Germany, another country with a heavy US presence (it's no coincidence btw, that both Japan and Germany were defeated former foes of the US military.... that's covert military colonization at its shining best, IMO), there were scores of US servicemen your age hanging around porno shops and brothels.


Anyway trust me when I say that if you said anything you say in this whole post to an Asian or Asian-American, he or she will laugh in your face and walk away with their back to you. That is, unless she is an auto-racist Asian girl who's trying to distance herself as much as possible from her roots by worshipping white men. Which brings me to my next points.....

Originally posted by Skweints

Japanese women are a lot harder to initially pick up if you're white.

This shows you how much you know about Japan, and Asia for that matter. It depends. If you go to Shinjuku or Shibuya or especially Roppongi in Tokyo, there will be many Japanese sluts or girls that are looking for Western men to have flings with. There are also Japanese girls who thin white guys are gajin trash - it depends. I could go into the cultural phenomenon of why certain Japanese girls go for white guys, but I don't have the patience to tell you... besides I don't think it'll take with you, considering the meager understanding and comprehension you've demonstrated.

Originally posted by Skweints

If you're black out here, you've got something going for you. They just seem more attracted to black men.

Again, I find it amusing how you base your experiences in a specific area full of bargirls, and apply it to a nation of 125 MILLION PEOPLE (Japan). You show the Japanese utter disrespect in this regard. This shyt about wananbe-black Okinawan girls has been well documented. There is a special sub-culture of Japanese girls who tan their skin a deep brown, put white lipstick on their faces, get dreadlocks and such - in order to appeal to black men.


And it's not like Okinawan women are STUPID, you arrogant guy. I mean think about it - they are aware that US servicement raped and looted Okinawans after they took the island during world war 2 - and the rape still occurs on a regular basis:


http://www.nyu.edu/globalbeat/asia/Kirk0399.html


It's totally a love-hate relationship - if they had the choice, they would much rather kick your white-asses out of there. But they can't - their livelihoods depend on your continual patronage of their restaurants, bars, barbershops, stores, etc. After the US "liberated" Okinawa, they stayed on for over FIFTY YEARS - and what for? It certainly wasn't to improve the quality of life there. It was mainly to maintain a US MILITARY PRESENCE in the Southeast Pacific. The relationship between the US military and Okinawa is a twisted one, like one between a wh0re and a pimp - both despise each other, but are forced to rely on each other to survive. This article (I found a brief one that is appropriate for your level) explains the complex symbiotic economic relationship between the Okinawans and the US occupiers.


http://www.japanreview.net/review_okinawa.htm


Here I quote from the above link:


In the eyes of host communities, U.S. troops stationed overseas often seem arrogant and insensitive. They usually know little about the country's history and culture. They speak only English, pay their way with dollars, and live in spacious, fenced-off enclaves at higher standards than most local citizens.

Military personnel are trained to dehumanize "others" as part of their preparation for war. This process, and the experience of combat, can make them edgy, fearful, frustrated, alienated, or aggressive-negative feelings that are often vented on host communities, especially women.

Sexism and militarism have commonly excluded feminine attributes and the perspectives and concerns of women. Sexism is central to a militarized masculinity, which involves physical strength, emotional detachment, the capacity for violence and killing, and an appearance of invulnerability. Male sexuality is assumed to be uncontrollable and in need of regular release, so prostitution is built into military operations, directly or indirectly, with the agreement of host governments. Suzuyo Takazato of Okinawa Women Act Against Military Violence, told the San Jose Mercury News, "These young troops go out into the field all day and are trained to be aggressive and to kill....They may change out of uniform and into a T-shirt and jeans, but their attitude does not change."

Originally posted by Skweints

You go to the Philippines, you'll have girls crawling all over you. Thailand? Depends on where you go. You go to Bangkok, girls are a bit more reserved. You go to Pattiya (spelling might be off), it's ho-ville. And that's just general attraction. Their attitudes are totally different. Japanese people are hardcore on tradition and professionalism. They see having fun as an extreme luxury, and should only be enjoyed at certain times. Filipinos, tend to be lazy. Not in a bad way, a Filipino woman will treat a man the best possible way she can, and she'll do everything in her power to satisfy, but when it comes to time management... needless to say, an hour late to work in the States is suicide, but almost expected in the Filipino culture.

Oh..... how cute. A whiteboy lecturing an ASIAN about Asians. Listen - drop your cheesy, Imperialist, "David-Carradine-I'm-not-Asian-but-I-have-a-cheesy-facsination-with-Asia-so-I'm-an expert" act.


You sound like a sleazy-ass wh0re monger, FOR REAL.. Holy crap, that is nauseating. Filipino women will do "everything in her power to satisfy....?"


Bro - do you realize that every single place you've mentioned are THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES? Of course they will treat you like a king - you are their fvcking MEAL TICKET, idiot. If I went to Russia or Hungary next week, those beautiful 'third-world' Euro-chickies will be wolfing down my Asian cack, swallowing my Asian c-um and rimming my Asian ass too, in hopes of some money or nice gifts or nice meals. It's not necessarily an indication of some "natural attraction" between white US servicemen and destitute Asian women, you ass. Women have been doing this for millenia, giving themselves up to outsider/invaders in order to curry their favor. German and Russian women gave it up to Mongol and Turkish invaders, in exchange for their lives/childrens' lives, and maybe a place in their harems. French women spread their legs for the German troops in Occupied Frances in WW2. Okinawan and Japanese women did the same for the American "Liberators". It goes on and on - but it is NOT a *biological* indication of some "magical" attraction between the males and females in each respective example/group.


Anyway, you are damn transparent dude.

 

[jakethasnake]

Continued....

Originally posted by Skweints

You got to break it down even further if you're gonna bring up stuff about asians, whites, and blacks. White Americans, Austrailians, Europeans. Do you know that in Austrialia, if you're American, just by treating a women with the normal respect we treat women in the states, girls will be all over you to get to know you? It's amazing to think how American women take that for granted! Same with Asian cultured people. Women out here are suppressed, forced to live two steps behind their husbands. If you treat a girl as an equal out here, you're golden.


You either have the physical features and personality to attract a certain type of woman, regardless of race or cultural background, or you don't. To answer the question originally asked, in the States? Definitely, people are going to be judgemental over race. In foreign countries, could be subtle or extreme. After meeting women from so many different cultures, I'm gonna hate going back to the States. Truely decent women are WAY harder to come by than any foreign country you can go to.

It looks like to me YOU'RE the one of those people you described above ("You either have the physical features and personality to attract a certain type of woman, regardless of race or cultural background, or you don't...."). You obviously don't have what it takes to get some in the States, so you go to pound some third world quasi-prostitute who has no choice but to rim your ass to get paid so she can support her ill mother or feed her 2 children, both of whom were fathered by foreign wh0remongers like you when she was FIFTEEN. Look here, buddy - I have the PERFECT site for you.... it's full of whiners and dorks who can't get any from American chicks and are just bitter:


www.nomarriage.com .




.... make sure you check out the links to Russian/Asian mail order brides too.

Originally posted by Skweints

Needless to say, it's all about personal preference. It's really not a topic that needs to be discussed.

This goes against the sentiments of myself and many others here - we all believe that there are very subtle and insiduous motivations behind our actions in dating choices that are unhealthy, and need to be explored. And because it is so hard to catch, it is easy for simpletons like you to declare it as "personal preferences" and other simplistic, non-sensical garbage. I'm sorry you had to be my whipping boy for today, but you were just asking for it.

 

[Ricky]

I think the only useful thing to take from this thread is the following:

Some girls are under so much family pressure to date within their race, that if you are from another race, their rejection should mean nothing to you.

Just like any other time a women rejects you, it is her loss. This is even more true if it is truly based on your race.

 

[ImpatientFire]

C'mon guys, people should stop generalising. Just cos you see a couple of blk athletes dating outside their race doesn't mean all blk men are insecure bout their own race. I speak with authority since I'm black, and about to get on the school basketball team. I'm attracted to all races of females. I Love beautiful women period and it's got nothing to do with race.
I'm from Nigeria, and back there the guys aren't necessary attracted to women outside their own race on average. I think the problem here is that humans tend to generalise. You see about 50 blk guys in your lifetime dating outside their own race, and you assume we blk guys have problems with our women. That's total B.S. People should learn to be open minded. Let your mind be free and fuk whoever u wanna fuk. Stop generalising and remember that every single human being is different and is gonna be attracted to whoever they want. Generalisation leads to racism. Aight peace

 

[entropy]

Entropy don't try to skew the info around. I made those last two quotes, and I am not Black either.

I merely pointed out that you were making false statements.

Not being black doesn't validate your point.

I speak with authority since I'm black, and about to get on the school basketball team.

LOL

This is a stereotype isn't it?