funketekun
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how many girls are you seeing now. Not ****ing yet?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
how many plates are u spnning right now?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
at the moment, none. i asked a girl out to dinner last week but she had already made plans with a girlfriend. i'm probably going to ask out a different girl in a week or two, but i doubt she'll say yes.
kinda sucks to be me right now.
kinda sucks to be me right now.
duke007
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positive thoughts dude!tsmith2334 said:
CORVETTE06
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Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
I would not be seeing a girl if I were not fvcking her, but I have two GFs right now. Both of them want to get married, but that would involve me not having two GFs any more, so I am not in a hurry to change anything.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Lord Shinra
Senior Don Juan
Currently 4. I'm working on some other ones next week.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Right now it's more than I can count on one hand. But not enough to count on two.
IMO this whole plate spinning thing seems like utter nonsense. How am I supposed to spin two or three plates if I can't even spin one?
IMO this whole plate spinning thing seems like utter nonsense. How am I supposed to spin two or three plates if I can't even spin one?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
What types of problems are you having?Maxtro said:
DavenJuan
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Maxtro said:
i think you are missing the premise then.
trying to spin ONE plate defeats the purpose. you shouldnt even be thinking "okay...ill get one plate, then move to plate two, then three"
you are trying to spin "multiple plates" at one time. i think if you concentrate on SEVERAL plates, this problem with starting to spin ONE will inevitably take care of its self.
your time, effort, and energy is NEVER focused enough on a single plate that it even deserves this kind of attention.
LostAndConfused
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zero.
slitherjef
Senior Don Juan
None. A couple fell off and broke and a couple never got spinning.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Gustav Yavo
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Got a gf. First girl ive actually genuinely like in almost 4 years. Virgin, tons of **** in common, similar tastes, values ect. Fvck lol the more i write the more i realize how fvcked im gonna be when we break up...
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
My problem seems to be, me being unable to make a connection with any girl and get her interested in me. I think it all comes down to the energy or lack thereof that I am putting out and that girls are feeling. I don't really know how to describe it or what is even wrong with me. But I am 100% certain that something is wrong.Francisco d'Anconia said:
In all honesty I would love to spin plates. It's a fantasy of mine to have 4 or 5 girls that I can have sex with when ever I want. But right now it seems almost impossible to spend any quality time with a woman.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
The novelty of having sex with two different women on the same night is wearing off 
Whats happening to me now is they're all getting annoyed that i'm not giving them much attention!
I've realised something too... its good they're getting annoyed because I must be having some effect on them... before in my AFC days (I still am a small bit AFC) they'd just ignore me or see me as the nice guy but feel nothing for me. Only a few weeks ago I was getting dates cancelled but now I'm the one cancelling them!
Proof that the less attention you give them the more the want you..
I've realised something too... its good they're getting annoyed because I must be having some effect on them... before in my AFC days (I still am a small bit AFC) they'd just ignore me or see me as the nice guy but feel nothing for me. Only a few weeks ago I was getting dates cancelled but now I'm the one cancelling them!
Proof that the less attention you give them the more the want you..
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.