Mr.Fantastic
Don Juan
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just wondering how long to wait after the 1st date...took her out on monday, im thinking next week? is that too long? can't go for weekend right? i need to be 'busy' then....?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
No, that's a bad idea. If the chick actually goes out of her way to try to see you, SHE WANTS YOU!!! Capitalize on that sh1t, man!md3sign said:If she offers to hang out before then it might be a good idea to refuse.
Definitely, man. If you've got an empty spot in your schedule, there's no reason to not use that time for dating!blinkwatt said:All that "wait 2,3 days is bull". DO WHAT YOU WANT! In my personal expierences if they like you they dont care when you call.
Look she already said she would 'love to' hang out again,WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?Just remember you had a life before her that you must still attend to.
Very true. These "rules" on when to call are yet another way in which the DJ Bible gives OVERCOMPENSATING advice to help rAFCs get rid of AFC habits and character traits. The problem is that most rAFCs end up taking this kind of advice too seriously, and as a result, we get questions like yours, Mr. Fantastic.kyphan said:That's because you're not using your gut, you're thinking too damn hard about doing the "right" thing. Your gut will tell you the answer, my friend.
jcap said:making people wait does not increase interest level. either you increase it during the date or you just did a ****ty job
This is also true, but in this case I wouldn't bother. As I, and a few others, have said already: this girl is clearly interested in you. No reason to start playing unnecessary games.Francisco d'Anconia said:Skipping the weekend altogether is good with someone you just meet. She'll begin wondering why you don't ever suggest doing something on the weekend. That's a good thing, it'll give her something to wonder about.
I would agree with you if it were established that truly interested and not just curious. Usually, a woman who is truly interested will ask you out on a weekend, in instances like that I would definitely accept. If she's playing the game of waiting to see what the guy will do, I say spend time with her during the week since she hasn't established herself as LT material. A woman who has stepped up and established (qualified) herself wins the honor of hanging out on the weekend. Make them earn it.Sean O said:This is also true, but in this case I wouldn't bother. As I, and a few others, have said already: this girl is clearly interested in you. No reason to start playing unnecessary games.
Francisco d'Anconia said:If she's playing the game of waiting to see what the guy will do, I say spend time with her during the week since she hasn't established herself as LT material. A woman who has stepped up and established (qualified) herself wins the honor of hanging out on the weekend. Make them earn it.