"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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How long seeing before you become "exclusive"

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I'm curious how long you guys will see a girl or girls usually before you decide to go exclusive? I know, for some of you, when it rains, it pours so often when you meet a girl you like to spend time with, you'll end up meeting two or three more that you're equally attracted to and potentially end up seeing them as well. The downside is you can only juggle for so long before things start getting stressful and you have to make cuts. Obviously it's much easier to make this decision if you meet one girl and no one else because you will default to exclusive sooner or later. How long do you linger in that limbo of seeing each other or make some cuts to your roster as the case maybe, and become exclusive with women, typically?

Annndd discuss.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Exclusive...when I know I'm not going to be short changed out of the deal. Including cuddle time, kissing, sex, Me Time and the like.

If I'm going to be short changed on any of those, then she hasn't met the requirements.
 

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okay docs although i'm some what uncomfortable with "cuddle time" lets say you're seeing several girls who provide you with each of these hypotheically. Criteria met yada yada, usually when do you start making cuts.

Honestly I'm a good spot with several girls and I'm going to have to make cuts sooner or later. When do you narrow the playing field?
 

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Become exclusive when you want to become exclusive with one. You choose when it becomes exclusive.

I usually make it a couple of months after I meet a girl, if I really think she could be long term material.
 

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Whenever I tell her she's mine ;)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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When I choose?! That could get pricy for me! Not that I pay for a ton of stuff for these girls, they pay for stuff too, but i mean with my time as well as money. I get done seeing one I have a date with the other the same night or the day after. If one sleeps over, one wants to go to lunch. It's crazy.

Ah well, i guess there's no easy anwser other then ride it out and pick one circa jan or feb i guess.
 

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CLOONEY said:
Become exclusive when you want to become exclusive with one. You choose when it becomes exclusive.

I usually make it a couple of months after I meet a girl, if I really think she could be long term material.
It usually take me about a season before I even start thinking about long term and that doesn't happen unless she's shown that necessary things that would merit viable LTR.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
It usually take me about a season before I even start thinking about long term and that doesn't happen unless she's shown that necessary things that would merit viable LTR.
How long is a season? A year? No way, I can tell if the chemistry and general good vibes of a girl are there after the first few dates. A few more and I can get a general gist of her attitude and interests. And the physical attraction is instant. Has never taken me more than a couple of months to see if I really want to get to know the girl. Dating a girl for a year, can really destroy things from my experience. Can create too much insecurity and games.
 

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CLOONEY said:
How long is a season? A year? No way, I can tell if the chemistry and general good vibes of a girl are there after the first few dates. A few more and I can get a general gist of her attitude and interests. And the physical attraction is instant. Has never taken me more than a couple of months to see if I really want to get to know the girl. Dating a girl for a year, can really destroy things from my experience. Can create too much insecurity and games.
I've noticed in the past couple of months while seeing these girls that games with them and additional games that comes from seeing multiple women exist. Juggling I'm not very insecure about them, maybe because in the back of my mind I secretly want one of them to find someone else or leave me otherwise. On the other hand I think I'd feel a bit of remourse if I lost one of them which is the delema at hand. Seeing multiple people takes a bigger toll on the psyche and physically then having just one girl could ever have but at the same time I preach playing the field and seeing more then one person (That's a page out of RT's book as well). Where is the break point for something like that? RT says not to concider monogomy until 30 but there's no way I'll be able to keep this up for 4 years. I'll get caught or have an emotional break down with in the next 4-6 months I wager. When does an exclusive relationship with ONE girl become validaded?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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CLOONEY said:
How long is a season? A year? ...
Where the hell do you live? A season is three months, there's four of them in a year! :p If I'm still interested in a woman by the three month mark she must have something special about her that's worthwhile. Even so, it's just at that time I consider the possibility of something long term. During the next season (another three months), I start watching her long term actions.

I watch to see if the things she did to impress me during the first three months were authentic or whether she just did those things to get into my good graces. After a couple seasons you can tell a person's true nature and determine if the ratio of her positive aspects to negative merit LTR consideration.
 
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