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How long after you first meet a girl can you hug her?

iCatch

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im in high school and a lot of people hug when they see each other instead of a plain old hi. my question is how long until you first meet a girl can you start to hug her instead of saying hi and stuff? sorry i didnt post this in the high school forum, but no one hardly reads that.

EDIT: before anyone goes and says "JUST DO IT!" im not afraid of hugging, touching, kino, and all that. i just wanna know how long until it wouldnt be weird for a girl
 

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AlexTheGreat

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it wont be weird for a girl when you won't feel weird doing it. whether that's 30 seconds after meeting her or 30 years, is up to your comfort level. Push your comfort zone and you'll see progress.
 

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Just Do It! ....oh wait.

As soon as you have any level of rapport, you should be ok to hug any chick that's not weirded out by physical contact. Just get close, open your arms, and she'll plunge into your big 'ol soft and snuggly embrace. If you feel particularly brazen I'd recommend an 'accidental' butt grab.
 
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Warrior74

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Rex Man said:
Just Do It! ....oh wait.

As soon as you have any level of rapport, you should be ok to hug any chick that's not weirded by physical contact. Just get close, open your arms, and she'll plunge into your big 'ol soft and snuggly embrace. If you feel particularly brazen I'd recommend an 'accidental' butt grab.

I agree...well maybe not about the buttgrab. depends on the girl.

but...by the time most guys are asking themselves when can theyhug her, its usually too late. (overthinking, stalling and waiting)

Do this...next time you see her. give her the one arm buddy hug. the next time after that, give her the quick two arm hug. make em quick and short. a "hi, hows it going" sort of hug. Then over time, as you talk to her and as she gets more comfortable and you see she's attracted give her a big hug. and maybe kiss. Good luck.
 

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iCatch said:
im in high school and a lot of people hug when they see each other instead of a plain old hi. my question is how long until you first meet a girl can you start to hug her instead of saying hi and stuff? sorry i didnt post this in the high school forum, but no one hardly reads that.

EDIT: before anyone goes and says "JUST DO IT!" im not afraid of hugging, touching, kino, and all that. i just wanna know how long until it wouldnt be weird for a girl
full frontal hug should be postponed until a little rapport is built.

sideways shoulder-to-shoulder hug is fine as soon as you open.

But none the above are hard rules you need to abide by. Improvise and be socially savvy.
 

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I would hug her only when its a full moon.... Wtf kinda question is this...
 

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Dude, you can hug a girl within second of meeting her. If you talk to a girl for 5 minutes, and see her again the next day, you can hug her upon saying hello.
 

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Are you guys ****ing serious? 5 frikin days?! You can hug her as long as you have confidence. If you're radiating positive emotional energy, people are DRAWN to you. You can feel that the convo is full of positivity, kino, and you're both comfortable with each other. sort of when you're on state! You feel like you could do ANYTHING because you're just so energetic and relaxed and positive and there's NO WAY it could go wrong!

If you're just hugging her out of the vibe, prepare yourself for an awkrard moment "OH boy I shouldn't have done this" :D

I hugged a girl that was my friends cousin and I haven't even talked to her yet. She liked me instantly... First she was like "Oh you're one of his best friends right?!", that was at the beggining in the class. then I saw her after and she was all happy to see me so I hugged her and I accidently stomped her foot, but she didn't seem to care as she was laughing all along.

I think I could pull it off with ANYONE tho, you just need the guts! 5 minutes should be enough! As long as the convo isn't full of awkrawdness and it actually going well.

Go guys! :D
 

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Daddy The Pimp said:
It takes time . At least 3-4 days after intensively being a wuss and trying to build comfort . So , when you're her girl friend , than you can hug her .
Dude - you left out the part where you should ask first. Never ever hug or kiss a girl without asking her if it's ok!
 

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Rounder said:
Dude - you left out the part where you should ask first. Never ever hug or kiss a girl without asking her if it's ok!
LOL you forgot adjusting your chest so it won't "accidentally" touch hers. :crackup:
 

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if a girl likes you physically she will want to hug and kiss on the first date... if you have to try then its not there.. it should be natural and spontaneous and mutual... its not about time .. its about chemistry
 

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DonGorgon said:
if a girl likes you physically she will want to hug and kiss on the first date... if you have to try then its not there.. it should be natural and spontaneous and mutual... its not about time .. its about chemistry
I would stay away from hugs at times when I need to sexually escalate.

I remember one night I dropped a girl off at her door after a seemingly fun date, and as we were standing at the door, and she finished opening the door, she just put her arms out to hug me, I was afraid that I was in LJBF (due to my earlier lack of chemistry or sexual escalation), but this kinda sealed it for me. So I just hugged her back, and nothing really happened after that.

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hugging = friendly.
side-hugs when your arm is across her back and you're holding onto her arm = sexy for the girl. Do these instead, not the one-arm or two-arm buddy hugs.
 
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